Yankee Bashing

[oriole^]

Frankly, I wish someone would diss my team. Camden Yards gets overrun by Yankees and (especially) Red Sox fans every time they come to town. It's disgusting and embarrassing that we're a huge minority in our own stadium...and then, to make it worse, they start with, "But you Oriole fans are so nice here! And your stadium is so great!"

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I don't want Red Sox fans to think that our stadium is "nice"! I want them to think it's a house of horrors. I want them to dread coming to Baltimore, and to think that the Yard is inhabited by man-eating beasts in Oriole jerseys who will kill them dead as soon as they walk through the gate, and serve them up at Boog's Barbecue out in right field.

I remember Memorial Stadium. You couldn't ever get away with that there. I remember once while the Yankees were there, they tried to make an announcement that a car with New York tags left their lights on, just as a joke. They couldn't do it. The fans booed so loud that you couldn't hear anything after "New York". That's what I want out of my team and my city.

[cartman00000001]

Orioles fans have to come out and support their team then.

Sorry about this, but I did go to Baltimore and the fans ARE great, and the stadium is fantastic!!

[Pavelb1]

Orioles fans have to come out and support their team then.

Sorry about this, but I did go to Baltimore and the fans ARE great, and the stadium is fantastic!!

Baltimore is doing decent this year and I expect them to be tough in the upcoming series.

[Arctic Blast]

Orioles fans have to come out and support their team then.

Sorry about this, but I did go to Baltimore and the fans ARE great, and the stadium is fantastic!!

Put yourself in the shoes of an O's fan, though...do you REALLY want to be financially throwing your support behind Peter Angelos and his path to total mediocrity? If too many people do that, where's the incentive for change? Heck, look how long the Cubs raked in massive profits, while not spending a dime to improve the team...and why should they? They're making scads of money with awful baseball, so why improve?

[cartman00000001]

Put yourself in the shoes of an O's fan, though...do you REALLY want to be financially throwing your support behind Peter Angelos and his path to total mediocrity? If too many people do that, where's the incentive for change? Heck, look how long the Cubs raked in massive profits, while not spending a dime to improve the team...and why should they? They're making scads of money with awful baseball, so why improve?

got to support your team. I was watching the Sox game today, and even though it's 2 outs in the 9th of a 15-4 game, there was still a chant of "let's go Red Sox" That says it all.

Love your team when they are doing well. REALLY love them when they are doing bad.

[Reade]

I hate the Cubs and take great pleasure in bashing them every chance I get. As a matter of fact I hate Chicago and the whole damn state of Illinios.

I can atest to that, being from the Chicago burbs we hate all cheese heads!

[Arctic Blast]

got to support your team. I was watching the Sox game today, and even though it's 2 outs in the 9th of a 15-4 game, there was still a chant of "let's go Red Sox" That says it all.

Love your team when they are doing well. REALLY love them when they are doing bad.

I do agree with that...to an extent. However, there are times when a fan base's unquestioned, rabid support has led to managment just cheaping out and not even trying to build a winner, because they didn't need to. Look at decades of time of the Cubs...look at the Toronto Maple Leafs...Hell, the New York Jets aren't a bad example of this, either.

[grasshopper]

This is all great but it comes back to what I was saying. The Yankees will not make the playoffs this year, but will get more press for it than the Rays actually making it. The Yanks have sold their team with great exposure, merchandising and management for so long, other teams/fans blame them for everything wrong in baseball. This only helps the Yankees "mystique".

Like said about the Orioles, whenever they play Boston, Mets, or Yanks, there are more opposition fans than home fans. Why does this make the other teams evil? Camden Yards is awesome. If you cant get the fans to go, whose fault is that?

The Cubs are over a quarter decade older than the Yanks. Chicago and the surrounding areas have a huge population. Why then do the Yankees have so much money to throw at their team and Chicago does not?

It is like beating a dead horse. Fans, fans, fans!!!!! That is the whole premise of baseball. If you want somebody to buy, you have to sell them a product that they believe in. The Red Sox (may they rot in hell) finally caught on and are making huge strides towards financial bliss. Only took 100 years.

[Arctic Blast]

This is all great but it comes back to what I was saying. The Yankees will not make the playoffs this year, but will get more press for it than the Rays actually making it. The Yanks have sold their team with great exposure, merchandising and management for so long, other teams/fans blame them for everything wrong in baseball. This only helps the Yankees "mystique".

Like said about the Orioles, whenever they play Boston, Mets, or Yanks, there are more opposition fans than home fans. Why does this make the other teams evil? Camden Yards is awesome. If you cant get the fans to go, whose fault is that?

The Cubs are over a quarter decade older than the Yanks. Chicago and the surrounding areas have a huge population. Why then do the Yankees have so much money to throw at their team and Chicago does not?

It is like beating a dead horse. Fans, fans, fans!!!!! That is the whole premise of baseball. If you want somebody to buy, you have to sell them a product that they believe in. The Red Sox (may they rot in hell) finally caught on and are making huge strides towards financial bliss. Only took 100 years.

Bingo! In one sentence, you nailed the exact concept I've been trying to explain, man. As a fan, why would I spend my hard earned money going to see games if I don't believe in the team and what they're doing? That doesn't mean they have to be a massive success right now, just show me the path to success in the future, show me the plan to GET there. In Toronto right now, the team's wondering why their sales are dwindling...well, when every year for the last (How long as JP been GM...8?) 8 or so years you have to same guy trying YET AGAIN to sell the idea that "NOW I've built you a winner! Line up and see!", and EVERY YEAR ends in yet another run to a roughly .500 record and the same stupid excuses, fans stop believing in you, and the stop believing that their money is actually leading to anything beyond mediocrity. I don't know about everyone else, but I don't like paying for 'meh'. I don't like spending 12 bucks on an OK movie, or buying an OK CD, or going to an OK concert, or buying an OK video game...so why would I apy that same money for an OK sports team that has nothing on the horizon BEYOND that?

As for the overexposure if.when the Yanks miss the playoffs...see, I see that as balance. If you're going to be massively overhyped when you do well (as the Yankees, and other teams, are), then you also have to accept being massively overhyped when you struggle. You can't take one without accepting the other.

[Pavelb1]

This is all great but it comes back to what I was saying. The Yankees will not make the playoffs this year, but will get more press for it than the Rays actually making it. The Yanks have sold their team with great exposure, merchandising and management for so long, other teams/fans blame them for everything wrong in baseball. This only helps the Yankees "mystique".

Like said about the Orioles, whenever they play Boston, Mets, or Yanks, there are more opposition fans than home fans. Why does this make the other teams evil? Camden Yards is awesome. If you cant get the fans to go, whose fault is that?

The Cubs are over a quarter decade older than the Yanks. Chicago and the surrounding areas have a huge population. Why then do the Yankees have so much money to throw at their team and Chicago does not?

It is like beating a dead horse. Fans, fans, fans!!!!! That is the whole premise of baseball. If you want somebody to buy, you have to sell them a product that they believe in. The Red Sox (may they rot in hell) finally caught on and are making huge strides towards financial bliss. Only took 100 years.

Actually Harry Frazee had his own regional cable television sports network, OTSN (Old Towne Sports Network) spread over six states. He had Tris Speaker and Cy Young lined up to be the game announcers until he realized television hadn't been invented yet.

By the way....when you sell out every game for six years (And don't give me that 50,000 seating capacity BS, you've got 10 million people and a 'Yankee Universe' to draw from, remember?)...then you can talk about 'finally catching on. And that Sox streak started in 2003..not 2004.

[grasshopper]

By the way....when you sell out every game for six years (And don't give me that 50,000 seating capacity BS, you've got 10 million people and a 'Yankee Universe' to draw from, remember?)...then you can talk about 'finally catching on. And that Sox streak started in 2003..not 2004.

Of course I am gonna make fun of the Sox. Boston has always had the fan base, but not the wins. What I was saying is that since they have been winning, I have since witnessed Sox hats in Turkey, Armenia, Mongolia, Ukraine, Egypt, Hungary and even Sudan. Do most people know what it is? No. It just proves that the merchandising market is now open. That was not happening when they were not winning.

As for the 10 million people, read the ****ing post. Now it is getting redundant. How many people live in the Chicago area? How many people live in the LA area? How many people live in around Phillie? Boston draws upon 5 states for assclappinglickmyballs sake!!!! You have probably more direct fans than the yankees.

[cartman00000001]

Of course I am gonna make fun of the Sox.

...and yet we can't Yankeee bash? Sorry, you've lost all credibility in my eyes. The Yankee fan in you shines through in that statement.

[grasshopper]

Of course you can Yankee bash. Go for it. Have fun. I dont care about credibility in your eyes. In my eyes the Yankees have done just fine. If you thought I was bashing the Sox, well too bad. They are great too. I was just saying about time.

[Pavelb1]

Of course I am gonna make fun of the Sox. Boston has always had the fan base, but not the wins. What I was saying is that since they have been winning, I have since witnessed Sox hats in Turkey, Armenia, Mongolia, Ukraine, Egypt, Hungary and even Sudan. Do most people know what it is? No. It just proves that the merchandising market is now open. That was not happening when they were not winning.

As for the 10 million people, read the ****ing post. Now it is getting redundant. How many people live in the Chicago area? How many people live in the LA area? How many people live in around Phillie? Boston draws upon 5 states for assclappinglickmyballs sake!!!! You have probably more direct fans than the yankees.

The five states you mention have 10 million total. The New York metropolitan area has 18 million.

[oriole^]

Like said about the Orioles, whenever they play Boston, Mets, or Yanks, there are more opposition fans than home fans. Why does this make the other teams evil? Camden Yards is awesome. If you cant get the fans to go, whose fault is that?

First off, the O's are and will be fine. Plenty of folks come to the stadium whenever the Rangers, Twins, etc., come to town, too. And if we're not doing well this year, we're at least fielding young players with a potential to grow, not overpriced washouts.

Memorial Stadium used to have huge numbers of Yankee "fans" in it when they played there in the 80s...now it's Red Sox "fans" at the Yard. I say that in quotes not because those teams don't draw actual fans at their home stadia, but because those teams were and are, respectively, the latest "thing" for people to root for.

I was at the Italian Festival in Baltimore over the weekend, and I had a great time...good food, good people. And there were a huge number of "fans" with Red Sox caps and t-shirts on (including of course the brainless girls with the pink hats), almost as many as were wearing Orioles gear. Every ten-year-old had a Sox cap on. The Sox weren't even in town. Am I to believe that these were real "fans" of the Sox? Or do they just want to "ooo, party!" because "I saw Manny or Youk or somebody on ESPN once, an' they were sooooo cool!" It was exactly the same 20 years ago, except it was the Yankees. No difference, never will be. They're the Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie of MLB: they're popular because...they're popular.

Honestly, when I see the Red Sox on a shirt around Baltimore or D.C., it's basically like seeing Hollister or Aeropostal or Abercrombie and Fitch. It's not a team, it's a label.