11.25 Payroll differs on expense dialog and finance page [Fixed 12.11]

[HoustonGM]

All this work for one measly game's worth of salary?! Nice work both of you, tracking it down.

[filihok]

All this work for one measly game's worth of salary?! Nice work both of you, tracking it down.

It was a labor of love on my part-the bane of my Mogul existence since I bought '07. Ty just did all the work.

And no, I just simmed to the next season and the last game's salary never gets removed from cash.

[filihok]

Fixed BM2K10???

[Clay Dreslough]

Which is 74,537,043/75,000,000 = .99382724

Who can figure out the significance of THIS number? I'll get to work on it

161/162 = .993827

So it would appear that players are only getting paid for 161 games. That could happen if I pay players AFTER games, but they don't get paid after the last game because the code thinks the season is over.

[filihok]

I found a much simpler explanation. You don't pay the players for the last game of the season.

Every game (except the last) each player's salary is divided by 162. They are each rounded to the nearest dollar.

So:
$1 million / 162 rounded to the nearest dollar = $6173
$75 million / 162 rounded to the nearest dollar = $462963

$6173 * 25 + $462963 = $617288 per game

$617288 * 161 games = $99,383,368 -- which is what the running total says after both the 161st and 162nd game.
$617288 * 162 games = $100,000,656 -- which is also the projected expenses before the last game is played.

Yeah, that's what some genius named tywiggins figured out was the problem.

[filihok]

Bump

1/162 * every player on every team for every season of every game started by every user is a lot of money

[filihok]

NOT fixed

http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthread.php?t=199990

The 161/162 problem is fixed but the game still uses and incorrect amount when deducting payroll expense

[filihok]

Looking into this more, I'm realizing that the difference between the Payroll on the side bar and in the expenses dialogue is why MY calculations are so far off from Mogul's.

In THIS THREAD I showed that the payroll number on the side bar is correct and the number in the expenses dialogue is incorrect and that Mogul incorrectly uses the number from the expenses dialogue.

I'm posting the payroll numbers from the sidebar and from the expenses dialogue (Circled in RED) for each month during my season. You can see that the differences are between 15 and 20 million dollars each month.

At the end I've posted a pic of the Excel sheet I use to calculate my finances.

You can see that the revenue numbers ($142 million) should be correct.

I've also gone into detail regarding the monthly Farm, Scouting, and Medical expenses. I changed those monthly and the reason the numbers don't match the pics is because sometimes I took the pic before I changed it sometimes after

The total expenses that I calculated were $74 million.

In the pic just above the excel sheet Mogul shows that total expenses (plus payroll) were $118 million.

If Total expenses were $118 million and Farm, Scouting, and Medical were $74 million then payroll expenses must be equal to $44 million.

But if you go back and look at all of the side bar numbers you'll see that my payroll was never close to $44 million. It ranged between $54 million and $71 million.

So the $44 million number MUST BE INCORRECT.

If you look at the payroll numbers listed on the expenses dialogues that I posted they range between $36 million and $55 million. THIS is where mogul is deducting expenses from and it is incorrect.

I've also attached an excel sheet that shows my actual payroll expenses that I calculated. That number is $66 million. The $66 million jives with the payroll numbers listed on the sidebars as well.

I still hope that there is an error in my logic because if someone shows me what that is I can fix in instantly.

But, I'm pretty sure that this is a bug in the game. I hope Clay will fast-track this to be fixed because it makes a HUGE difference ($20 million) the finance aspect of the game.

I'd also like to hear from anyone (maybe some of you league players) who manually does budgets. If you've ever got a budget to balance I'd love to hear how you did so.

[Clay Dreslough]

First, I want to mention something about Baseball Mogul that may cause errors like this. I use signed 32-bit numbers for dollar values, so there is an overflow around 2.1 billion. In order to prevent this, Baseball Mogul 2010 does two things:

1) Doesn't let you enter more than $1,000,000,000 for a team's cash in the team editor.

2) Severely reduces a team's revenue if that team has more than $300,000,000 in cash.

It's this 2nd point that can really mess with revenue expectations.

So, since I can't tell from the screen shots, please make sure your team doesn't have more than $300,000,000 in cash. If it does, set it to a lower number and tell me if you still see these problems.

Thanks!

Clay

P.S. Baseball Mogul 2011 will still have these 'caps' -- but I'm letting you edit them, and adding them to the help files. Sorry for the confusion.