2008 Sports Mogul MLB Awards: Results posted

[chuckwillard]

Here's what bothers me. His favorite team contains Pedro, Johan Santana, Billy Wagner, Carlos Delgado, Jose Reyes, David Wright, Carlos Beltran...

And he fixates on John Maine?

[Arctic Blast]

You've never focused on one of the supporting guys on a favorite team? I LOVE the muckers in hockey, and the big nose tackles in football.

[chuckwillard]

Au contraire, my favorite player on my favorite team (Red Sox) is Tim Wakefield. Not exactly a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

However, the level of near-worship of John Maine is quite astonishing, considering the number of multi-time All-Stars on that roster.

[Arctic Blast]

I'll grant you he is an interesting choice.

Metsguy, if you do read this, how did you come to worship at the altar of John Maine?

[jdiggin]

You could probably declare this one right now. Even if they tank (doesn't look likely, but the Crawford injury is scary), there's no way Joe Maddon doesn't win this award, simply for giving them their first winning season.

However, if the White Sox pull some kinda magic, Ozzie Guillen would be hard to argue with. Especially given all that he and his team have gone through this year.

I'm not even sure Guillen would come in third place.

[etothep]

You could probably declare this one right now. Even if they tank (doesn't look likely, but the Crawford injury is scary), there's no way Joe Maddon doesn't win this award, simply for giving them their first winning season.

However, if the White Sox pull some kinda magic, Ozzie Guillen would be hard to argue with. Especially given all that he and his team have gone through this year.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the Rays expected to be good & compete for the division this year?

Gardenhire would get my vote, barring a mega colapse in the last month. The Twins weren't supposed to do jack this year after losing their best pitcher & hitter in the offseason.

[RedsoxRockies]

Gardenhire and Maddon and maybe Scosia deserve the award in the Al. In the NL, Lou Pinella, or Freddy Gonzalez seem like good canidates. Tony LaRussa has done well with a bad team as well.

[justanewguy]

I don't think the Rays were expected to "compete." They were expected to be good, but I don't think that many people expected them to hang with the Sox, Yankess, or even the Blue Jays, let alone top that division and often have the best record in all of baseball.

Ron Gardenhire is a strong candidate for sure, as would be Ozzie Guillen (same circumstances, both were expected to be crushed by the Tigers and Indians). But the Twins are a competitive team every year, and the Sox are only a few years removed from a World Series title (with most of those players intact).

But come on... the first winning season in the franchise's history? Winning the AL East? Possibly the best record in baseball?

I'd be truly stunned if Maddon didn't win the real life award.

[gRYFYN1]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the Rays expected to be good & compete for the division this year?

Gardenhire would get my vote, barring a mega colapse in the last month. The Twins weren't supposed to do jack this year after losing their best pitcher & hitter in the offseason.

No they the Rays were expected to be better and get over .500 for the season ..

but no one thought they'd win the divsion or make the playoffs

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=mlb


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/previe...=08expertpicks

That's 26 people predicting and no one had the Rays ....

[HoustonGM]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the Rays expected to be good & compete for the division this year?

Depends on who you talk to. Everybody expected them to improve greatly and play around .500. A number of people, usually the more analytical type, expected them to compete with Boston and New York. I'd say very few people expected them to be competing for the best record in baseball.

That's 26 people predicting and no one had the Rays ....

It's also ESPN

PECOTA's predictions had the Rays winning 88 games. A number of other "sabermetric" types agreed with roughly that much. As I said, that's "competing" and being in the playoff discussion, but, yeah, nobody expected them to be THIS good.



Any input on the amount of players listed on each ballot?

[justanewguy]

Any input on the amount of players listed on each ballot?

Looks good to me, but all the GGs and SSs are going to turn into huge lists and add some work to the process when things are being tallied.

What's the point system breakdown for ranks on everything?

[HoustonGM]

Looks good to me, but all the GGs and SSs are going to turn into huge lists and add some work to the process when things are being tallied.

I'll handle that.

What's the point system breakdown for ranks on everything?

I haven't decided that yet. I have to look further at how the real life MVP/Cy Young/ROY points are distributed.

[RedsoxRockies]

Any input on the amount of players listed on each ballot?

Maybe 10-12?

[HoustonGM]

Maybe 10-12?

Check the first post. I have numbers listed for each different award.

[etothep]

Check the first post. I have numbers listed for each different award.

Not complaining or anything, but 10 seems high for MVP (or any award for that matter) Enjoy counting all those votes Houston!