I like trees. They are not so nice to hug.Originally Posted by dickay
Yeah, i made up the part about you being a tree hugger
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I like trees. They are not so nice to hug.Yeah, i made up the part about you being a tree hugger
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Cmon now Houston, you're a smart guy. Do you actually believe the escalation of PED use at the high school level coinciding with the escalation of use in professional sports is merely coincidence????? Over the past 20-25 years it has taken off in enormous numbers.
Same reason minor leaguers and fringe players take them (so they can compete at the pro level and make coin), college players take them (to make it to the professional level), high school players take them (to get that scholarship or pro contract).
The availability of these drugs is alarming and would become worse if legalized. To stop this ugly trend the availability must first be ceased, and it must be combated from the top down. If professional sports seriously worked to eliminate it, and made it such a negative to use it...it would trickle downward.
This is more than a 'record book and dignity of the game' issue.....it is about our youth. I don't see why or how people can deny this obvious truth.
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People deny it because it's the quick fix society. Give me a pill for this, give me a pill for that.
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Yeah...just what this country needs to completely derail itself. Government controlled cocaine sales??
A country Michelle Obama could be proud of I suppose.
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Come on...the gov does and amazing job controlling the sale of alcohol and tobacco. They would do fine with cocaine.
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PED use has risen in society, PERIOD.
So, that means that it's because professional players take them, the lower levels take them also? I think it has nothing to do with "influence" from professional players, but rather everything to do with the pressure to succeed. There's a difference.Same reason minor leaguers and fringe players take them (so they can compete at the pro level and make coin), college players take them (to make it to the professional level), high school players take them (to get that scholarship or pro contract).
We obviously disagree about the legality of it, because I think they should be perfectly legal for adults. I think the way to combat it is to educate kids about the dangers, though, and not to prevent adults from using it. Making it illegal for adults doesn't stop kids from doing it, as is proven by other drugsThe availability of these drugs is alarming and would become worse if legalized. To stop this ugly trend the availability must first be ceased, and it must be combated from the top down. If professional sports seriously worked to eliminate it, and made it such a negative to use it...it would trickle downward.
Because the "think of the children" meme is getting old.This is more than a 'record book and dignity of the game' issue.....it is about our youth. I don't see why or how people can deny this obvious truth.
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How do you know? I'd think the exact opposite would occur. If the drugs were legal with a prescription, what incentive would anyone have to sell them with without (illegally)?The availability of these drugs is alarming and would become worse if legalized.
How exactly do you propose to do that? No one has been able to do it with any drug so far, and from all indications the attempts have made the problems worse...To stop this ugly trend the availability must first be ceased, and it must be combated from the top down.
Sure... just like funding stadiums is about taking school books from schools, right?it is about our youth.
You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann
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neither does making it legal as proven by other drugs. Not saying that educating against the dangers isn't important.
Because the "think of the children" meme is getting old.
yeah...thinking about the children has only allowed us to survive as a species for 250,000 years.
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Huh? I assume you're referring to alcohol and tobacco?
Clearly, not what I meant, but okay.yeah...thinking about the children has only allowed us to survive as a species for 250,000 years.
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they are legal with a prescription and the prescriptions are abused and they are sold illegally
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Oh, come on... Are we really going to just drag the conversation down to the level of "save the children"?
You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann
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yes.
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That's what every drug legalization conversation ends up at, at some point.
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Their not legal in the manner in which their being used.
As to Alcohol and Tobacco, I don't see how their comparable. Some people have problems with addiction, but far fewer people have problems with being addicted to Alcohol or Tobacco than there are with Coke, Meth, Heroine, etc...
Well, maybe not Tobacco, but the effects of Tobacco addiction are more on par with Caffeine addiction then with, say Meth. I don't see anyone here advocating Coffee being banned.
Yea, it's sad really.
You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann
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He's saying that alcohol and cigarettes being legal hasn't dropped their use in kids, so legalizing steroids won't either. I think.
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