Most Undeserving Hall of Famer

[free2131]

Hell no - Metsguy you're crazy.

[HoustonGM]

I highly doubt you would say the same of someone with league average defense but amazing offense.

Or even league average offense and league average defense!

[metsguy234]

Or even league average offense and league average defense!

That was just an exercise to show people how good Boone was and how poor Grich was.

[metsguy234]

I highly doubt you would say the same of someone with league average defense but amazing offense.

I value offense more than I value defense, mostly because offensive events are more easily quantified, while defense is a more subjective field to measure, and therefore defensive reputations are often based simply off of hearsay and the like.

[HoustonGM]

That was just an exercise to show people how good Boone was and how poor Grich was.

And, as I said in that thread, you failed, because you're wrong. Bret Boone = average glove, average bat. Bobby Grich = above average glove, above average bat. Ozzie Smith = best in history defense, average bat.

I value offense more than I value defense, mostly because offensive events are more easily quantified, while defense is a more subjective field to measure, and therefore defensive reputations are often based simply off of hearsay and the like.

That's why you should use a combination of defensive reputations and defensive statistics.

And, you know what? When the two match up perfectly, chances are, it's true.

[Clay Dreslough]

Don't let other Cardinals fans know I said that

Don't worry. I don't even know where the secret meetings are held.

Bill James runs the secret meetings for Royals fans. But he's the only one that shows up.