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    Clay's Blog: Lee for MVP!

    What do you guys think about Cliff Lee for MVP. This guy has been something special this year.

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    Re: Clay's Blog: Lee for MVP!

    It's certainly a possibility that he ends up as the most valuable player in the AL, but I don't think he has much of a shot of actually winning the vote.

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    Re: Clay's Blog: Lee for MVP!

    Pitchers shouldn't be winning the MVP, IMO...
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    Re: Clay's Blog: Lee for MVP!

    Quote Originally Posted by metsguy234 View Post
    Pitchers shouldn't be winning the MVP, IMO...
    Why?

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    He might get some votes. And deserves them. But highly doubtful he'll win. There are already those out there that don't think a pitcher deserves to be MVP. And there are those out there that don't think a non-playoff team should have the MVP. Add those two together and Lee won't win MVP.

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    Re: Clay's Blog: Lee for MVP!

    Quote Originally Posted by metsguy234 View Post
    Pitchers shouldn't be winning the MVP, IMO...
    I agree but if one player can win over 30% of there games. That is pretty impressive.

    There are only a few pitchers in the history of the sport I felt that should have won the MVP in the league. (1995- Randy Johnson)

    Plus what Cliff Lee has done this year...he has a shot at MVP. If he countinues this, above or below 30% wins. He has a shot.

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    Re: Clay's Blog: Lee for MVP!

    Buster Olney (Or someone on Baseball Tonight) said that if the Rockies make the playoffs and if Cook keeps pitching the way he is it would be more likely for Cook to win the MVP than the Cy Young. Because he carried the team into the playoffs on his back.
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    Re: Clay's Blog: Lee for MVP!

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Why?
    Because they have the Cy Young Award. And since a hitter can't win the Cy Young Award, pitchers shouldn't be able to win the MVP award, in my opinion.

    What's this guy's record? Maybe he'd be good for the Cy Young, but Cliff Lee is normally just an OK player, so how is he doing this year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    He might get some votes. And deserves them. But highly doubtful he'll win. There are already those out there that don't think a pitcher deserves to be MVP. And there are those out there that don't think a non-playoff team should have the MVP. Add those two together and Lee won't win MVP.
    Yep. That's why I don't see him actually winning, even though he has a legitimate shot at actually being the most valuable player.

    Quote Originally Posted by boomboom
    There are only a few pitchers in the history of the sport I felt that should have won the MVP in the league. (1995- Randy Johnson)
    Pedro Martinez, 1999. He was jobbed out of it by two voters that didn't even place him on their ballot AT ALL because he was a pitcher.

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    Re: Clay's Blog: Lee for MVP!

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Why?
    I've never really understood why a pitcher would win MVP. Sure, pitchers are sometimes the most valuable players in the league. In fact, I think it probably happens far more often than people realize. But we have two separate awards: Cy Young and MVP. The way I see it, the former awards the most valuable pitcher and the latter awards the most valuable position player. I don't see why people treat the MVP as the superior award.

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    Holy crapp!!! 14-2? That's really good, but I think he's gonna dip now, he isn't historically good.
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    Re: Clay's Blog: Lee for MVP!

    Quote Originally Posted by knicks0929 View Post
    I've never really understood why a pitcher would win MVP. Sure, pitchers are sometimes the most valuable players in the league.

    THAT's why they should win. The most valuable player should win the most valuable player award, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by metsguy234 View Post
    Because they have the Cy Young Award. And since a hitter can't win the Cy Young Award, pitchers shouldn't be able to win the MVP award, in my opinion.

    What's this guy's record? Maybe he'd be good for the Cy Young, but Cliff Lee is normally just an OK player, so how is he doing this year?
    Just curious, why do you have an opinion when you don't even know what he has done this season. And what he has done in the past has nothing to do with this season.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/leecl02.shtml

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    Re: Clay's Blog: Lee for MVP!

    Quote Originally Posted by rockiesfan4ever
    Buster Olney (Or someone on Baseball Tonight) said that if the Rockies make the playoffs and if Cook keeps pitching the way he is it would be more likely for Cook to win the MVP than the Cy Young. Because he carried the team into the playoffs on his back.
    LOL. There is absolutely no way that Cook, or any NL pitcher, is winning the MVP award. The only reason Lee has a shot is because of the relative lack of outstanding position players in the AL this year. The NL has no shortage of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by metsguy234 View Post
    Because they have the Cy Young Award. And since a hitter can't win the Cy Young Award, pitchers shouldn't be able to win the MVP award, in my opinion
    Well, than the definition of the awards need to be changed. Instead of the Most Valuable Player, it should be changed to the Most Valuable Position Player. As it is right now, its the most valuable PLAYER and it's not an award just for position players. Pitchers are eligible, and thus SHOULD be taken into account.

    What's this guy's record? Maybe he'd be good for the Cy Young, but Cliff Lee is normally just an OK player, so how is he doing this year?
    Ridiculously good.

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    Re: Clay's Blog: Lee for MVP!

    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    THAT's why they should win. The most valuable player should win the most valuable player award, no?
    agree

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