Why Manny will retire in Boston...

[twinsGM]

http://thebbreport.blogspot.com/2008...s-red-sox.html

[robinhoodnik]

I agree. He will have a tough time getting out of Boston.
1. He's probably DH material at this point.
2. He'd be a 20 million dollar DH.
3. He IS a distraction.
4. Not everyone (team mates) thinks his antics are cute, and that reputation spreads as guys come and go.

To be honest, I don't see all that many Ramirez jerseys. Ortiz is king in merchandising, Daisuke, Beckett, Papelbon, even quite a few Lowell and V-Tek (he's on the Life Water trucks now) but not so many Manny items.

[etothep]

b/c its hard to trade a guy that makes $20mil/yr who plays when he deems its important & it fits in his schedule?

[OldFatGuy]

If he retires in Boston then he's retiring this year, because Boston is not going to have him next year. The Red Sox are done with him.

[twinsGM]

Then he'll retire a Free Agent, unless he agrees to a major salary drop to play for another team.

[robinhoodnik]

b/c its hard to trade a guy that makes $20mil/yr who plays when he deems its important & it fits in his schedule?

Lol!

[dickay]

wow, I can't believe how many people don't understand the baseball market. Again, i'm on record....manny will either play for Boston next year with the 20 mil option (unlikely) or a new 3 year deal, or he will be traded (most likely). He won't become a FA. Someone will most certainly take him and sign him to a 3yr deal worth near 20 mil if not over.

As for him retiring a Red Sox........who is the last big Red Sox player that retired while on the Sox?? Do we have to go all the way back to Greenwell (I know the term 'big' might not fit him much but he was a long tenured starter). I think Burks retired a Sock but that was a short one year deal after he floated around the NL.

Won't happen.

[twinsGM]

What will happen then? a trade? to who?

[beerchaser]

Seems like I heard last night that Manny wants Boston to opt out on his contract because he seems to think he can get 4 yrs/$100MM on theopen market. WTF? Who's going to give him that?

[etothep]

Seems like I heard last night that Manny wants Boston to opt out on his contract because he seems to think he can get 4 yrs/$100MM on theopen market. WTF? Who's going to give him that?

Obligatory "The d@mn Yankees will!!11!" post

[Pavelb1]

wow, I can't believe how many people don't understand the baseball market. Again, i'm on record....manny will either play for Boston next year with the 20 mil option (unlikely) or a new 3 year deal, or he will be traded (most likely). He won't become a FA. Someone will most certainly take him and sign him to a 3yr deal worth near 20 mil if not over.

As for him retiring a Red Sox........who is the last big Red Sox player that retired while on the Sox?? Do we have to go all the way back to Greenwell (I know the term 'big' might not fit him much but he was a long tenured starter). I think Burks retired a Sock but that was a short one year deal after he floated around the NL.

Won't happen.

1. Merchandice. If anything Manny material will go through the floor. I'll bet a lot of people put away their Manny jerseys this weekend. Also MLB doesn't have a European Soccer model. The merchandice sold in the US is spread out among every team. So it's not like 300,000 jerseys sold here goes straight to the Sox.

2. No one wants him? As I've said before, the Yanks would take him just for the psychological impact. Let's face it. Manny rakes when Manny wants too. Any team he went to would see a vintage Manny for the first year...it's the next two years you would have to worry about. As for is Manny worth 20 mill a year? If you go by Arod (being slightly overpaid imo) as the bar setter. Then yes, I think Manny is worth 20 mill a year. As for the waivers, that was a while ago before contracts went through the roof. Some think Manny is a steal right now, I think 20 mill is just about right.

3. That 'they never would have won without Manny' is getting tiresome as ****. Without Manny..who knows...maybe in this alternative reality Arod would be a Red Sox, or if for some reason the Sox *never* got a big bat since 2001, they certainly would have gone after Ordonez in 2005, and maybe we'd be trumpeting last year as the first WS in a kajillion years.

4. Finally...I get the feeling Manny and Papi arn't all THAT close. Lugo seems to a lot closer friend to Manny.

[dickay]

What will happen then? a trade? to who?

Yes, the option will be picked up to give Boston control over his rights. They will trade him to a team and he will agree as they will have a new 3 year 20 mil or close to it contract worked out ahead of time. I posted in another thread, but likely the Angels, Tigers, Mets, Astros, Diamondbacks, Rockies, White Sox, maybe the Dodgers, Orioles, Nationals, and a handful of other mid-market teams who think they can contend or improve marketability. Here's a sleeper...the Indians.

[dickay]

1. Merchandice. If anything Manny material will go through the floor. I'll bet a lot of people put away their Manny jerseys this weekend. Also MLB doesn't have a European Soccer model. The merchandice sold in the US is spread out among every team. So it's not like 300,000 jerseys sold here goes straight to the Sox.

2. No one wants him? As I've said before, the Yanks would take him just for the psychological impact. Let's face it. Manny rakes when Manny wants too. Any team he went to would see a vintage Manny for the first year...it's the next two years you would have to worry about. As for is Manny worth 20 mill a year? If you go by Arod (being slightly overpaid imo) as the bar setter. Then yes, I think Manny is worth 20 mill a year. As for the waivers, that was a while ago before contracts went through the roof. Some think Manny is a steal right now, I think 20 mill is just about right.

3. That 'they never would have won without Manny' is getting tiresome as ****. Without Manny..who knows...maybe in this alternative reality Arod would be a Red Sox, or if for some reason the Sox *never* got a big bat since 2001, they certainly would have gone after Ordonez in 2005, and maybe we'd be trumpeting last year as the first WS in a kajillion years.

4. Finally...I get the feeling Manny and Papi arn't all THAT close. Lugo seems to a lot closer friend to Manny.

So I think we are in agreement. Although I think it unlikely he'll retire a Sock, I don't think it impossible. As I said I could see him coming back to the Sox with a new 3 year deal. I also agree that the contract is about right.

[Pavelb1]

What will happen then? a trade? to who?

If everyone's feelings arn't too hurt at the end of the season. I'd think a three year 21 million contract would be perfectly reasonable.

[dickay]

If everyone's feelings arn't too hurt at the end of the season. I'd think a three year 21 million contract would be perfectly reasonable.

21 mil per maybe lol. If you think Manny would sniff a 7 year per contract you're joking or very naive regarding baseball economics. Sorry to be blunt about it.