Portland Skyhawks anyone?
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Portland Skyhawks anyone?
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Where did you come up with "Skyhawks" from?
"Beavers" or "Timber<something>" are much more likely...
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Monterey, mexico might work, or San Juan, Puerto Rico
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Who's Leykis?Originally Posted by etothep
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Anywhere in Mexico pretty much suffers form the same problems as Mexico City, with the added problem of not having Mexico Cities' ~20 million person potential market.
San Juan... Eastern time zone. I guess the AL could do something like 4-6-6 (Rangers to the Central, +1 in AL West, +1 in AL East) but... meh. Expansion should occur out west first, in my opinion. They could add some eastern teams to both the NL and AL a few years later.
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Why not just add a team in every statethat would be sweet. Realistically, how about Vancouver?(Canadian one)
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Vancouver, BC would work well I think.
Can you just imagine the AL West with:
LA Angels
Oakland A's
Portland
Seattle
Vancouver
?
Talk about regional competativeness!
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Yea, I hope that they add more Canadian teams. I have always hoped baseball would add more international teams, I have thought it is fun and interesting. I think they should return to Montreal as well, and maybe try Ottawa, or Quebec or Trois Riveres, or something. First they need to put minor league teams there, build up interest, then expand
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Well, for Canadian markets, Vancouver really could work. They've got enough of a population base, plus Victoria over on Vancouver Island, and a lot of surrounding communities as well. Also, as I've mentioned before, their entire transit and transportation grid is in the midst of a HUGE upgrade for the 2010 Winter Olympics. The only problem would be a lack of a ballpark. Assuming you could get one built in a good location, they could be a very viable market.
As for Montreal, I HATED seeing the Expos go. Loria's ownership was the killing blow to a market that never seemed to fully recover after the '94 strike/lockout. I don't think there was another team that was hit as hard by that as the Expos were. They had a fantastic young team, but a lot of fans were really put off by seeing what might have been their best chance get flushed like that. I'd have a bit more of a question mark about Montreal than Vancouver...would fans be leery about whether or not baseball was 'serious' this time, or would they just be left waiting for the other shoe to drop? Also, they would need a new park...Olympic Stadium is a disaster, and also hasn't been used for years, now, with the CFL club moving on.
Ottawa/Hull is simply too small, and too distant from the other big cities in Southern Ontario to probably draw enough for a full MLB franchise. Quebec
City isn't even half the size of Montreal, so is fairly questionable. I'd love to say that Calgary or Edmonton could support a club, but I'm simply not sure. The population is extremely transient right now, with a lot of people here for a couple years to make their bucks in the oil industry, then get out of dodge and go somewhere with a lower cost of living. You'd also run in to the same ballpark issues. I really cannot see where they'd put a park in Edmonton (they're having enough trouble trying to find a location for a new arena for the Oilers...another issue that would suck away interest from an MLB franchise), as it's, quite frankly, a horribly designed city. Calgary has a few more possibilities in that area, and would probably be the better destination of the two. It's a more white collar market, so there's more corporate cash.
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I love doing expansions and moves with my leagues, so this is a topic near and dear to my heart.
East: The most likely choices would be Montreal and Brooklyn. A non-Loria Expos might be able to rekindle the hearts of fans there. As for the second, surprised? The Atlantic Yards project could be reworked into a baseball stadium - that was Rickey's idea at one point - and the populace is definitely there, with money and baseball knowledge and love. A New Jersey or second Philly team would have nowhere to play, and Hartford and Providence might work, but only as NL teams (I had a Providence team draw okay in one league); and the "L.A. Clippers" factor in comparison to the Sawx.
South: A very neglected area. The best site would be the biggest metropolitan area without a major league sports franchise: the Hampton Roads area of Virginia. Norfolk Admirals, anyone? All they'd need would be a decent stadium, which would require the five municipalities of the area to quit their bickering and build one. Memphis and, believe it or not, New Orleans are lesser possibilities.
Midwest: San Antonio may be the best, with Indianapolis a close second. The Houston area is growing tremendously, and may be able to support a team in ten years or so, given deep-pocketed local ownership that isn't named "Enron" or anything similar. :-) AL's Galveston Whitecaps, anyone?
West: Portland is the obvious choice here; Las Vegas or Vancouver are okay second choices. A lot of interesting other locations - I love to put Honolulu in my leagues...lots of money there, but yes, I know, aging stadium, small-ish population, and hideous travel hurdles - it just wouldn't work in real life. San Jose (yes, three Bay Area teams), Sacramento, Salt Lake City, San Bernardino, and Calgary are interesting, but likely wouldn't work.
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I'd go with Hartford and Montreal. Hartford would be a decent city for an NL club, for sure. You'd get parts of the New York and Boston markets, as well as the southern New England market. Really though, I think that the Northeast is pretty saturated. I wouldn't go into Brooklyn personally, since the Long Island area is more of a viable market really.
Calgary would be a good market I think. San Antonio would be good. El Paso (and Ciudad Juárez) would be good as well. Indianapolis would make a ton of sense,
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I keep telling you folks, North Carolina is one of the largest areas in the country that does not have a MLB team yet, and the area just continues to grow. The only question is the population density is not that heavy; there's a lot of sprawl here. OTOH though, regardless of where you put a team, i.e. Charlotte, Raleigh or the Triad, there's at least 4-5 million people within 2 hours driving time.
Hartford's NHL team is now in Raleigh, and won the Stanley Cup down here.
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Table of United States Metropolitan Statistical Areas
Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC MSA is #34
Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, NC-SC MSA is #35
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According to that list North Carolina has 8 metro areas in the top 150, so like I said we have a lot of sprawl. Although I think some of those could easily be lumped together. Add Durham to the Raleigh-Cary MSA and it is roughly equal to Charlotte-Gastonia. Other smaller cities like Fayetteville, Greenville, Wilmington are within 2 hours drive of Raleigh. The Triad (GSO-HP-WS) is 1-1.5 hours from both Raleigh and Charlotte.
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