Hamilton talking about God

[RickD]

Yeah, this is an example of hypocrisy. The media says its okay to thank God, but not okay to say anything against God. Really, it should be okay to say either.

I agree people should be able to speak their minds and if we disagree with them we can just tune out. It's not a hard concept.

[filihok]

I agree people should be able to speak their minds and if we disagree with them we can just tune out. It's not a hard concept.

Or if we disagree we can engage in active conversation and to show that multiple positions on topics can exist harmoniously

[RickD]

Conversation is fine. However if you look at how the thread started it didn't seem to be inviting conversation as much as debate. I am glad it did not go that route.

I love to converse about the Lord.

[filihok]

And I love to converse about the fallacy of the idea of gods

[RickD]

I think you and metsguy could have an interesting chat together!

[filihok]

I always found it to be more interesting to talk with someone with whom you disagree. Otherwise you get.

BLAH BLAH BLAH
Yep

BLAH BLAH
Yeah

BLAH BLAH
uh huh. You're right

...

[jcbarr]

Very valid. Why discuss something if everyone is in agreement about it. Very boring. I know that a lot of people around here will play devil's advocate just for the sake of conversation. I know that I personally have done that on a few occasions.

[Arctic Blast]

No...remember when this ONE person said it.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n3251028.shtml

That garnered mega-controversy

Who wouldn't be offended...Kathy Griffin got an award for something? Ewww!

[boa]

Now I'm getting pissed.

Hamilton has like no self control. He talks about god on every frickin' interview. EVERY FRICKIN' INTERVIEW!

Good for Hamilton.

[jcbarr]

I wouldn't pay attention to any of those comments from him. I strongly believe he makes comments like that just to rile everyone up. It's on the same page as when he stated that anyone that wears a cowboy hat is also a racist.

[RickD]

I think you are right jcbarr

[filihok]

This whole conversation reminds me of an amusing anecdote...

Fade to 9 years ago

My grandmother had just died. She had raised me and I had taken it very hard. She was the first person close to me that had ever died. It was my final year in school. I was taking some interesting elective classes. One was Comparitive Mythology with Dr. David Leeming. Another was American Sign Language.

The Comparative Mythology class came at perfect time in my life. I needed something to help me deal with the loss of my grandmother. I found religions to be too excluding. Too greedy. I had given them up decades earlier. The time I spent with Dr. Leeming opened my eyes to a beauty of the world beyond that that of any devinity. But to tell that story would take too much time...

My brother and his wife were also giving birth to their first child. In my ASL class I had learned that new born children could learn sign language at a much younger age than they could learn to speak. I suggested to my brother that he could learn a little sign language and teach it to is (soon to be) daughter.

There was a church near his house that had a free sign language class once a week. I talked him into taking it, and went with him a few times. Before the class they also had a charity dinner. You donated $5 and you ate a meal prepared by the congregation. My brother and I never went to this despite being asked every week.

One day I had gotten out of work early or something, i don't remember, and I decided to go eat at the church since I was meeting my brother there. I went, paid my $5, got my food, and sat down. I noticed a guy that I knew from the sign language class was watching me from across the room. Once we made eye contact he came and sat with me. We introduced ourselves and made chit-chat. Then he started to ask me about my piercings and tattoos. I explained that each piercing and tattoo that I have is representative of, or came at a time of, struggle or change in my life and that the tattoo or piercing connects me to those times, lest I forget where i came from. He persisted, "but why do you get them?" I didn't have a better answer. He told me that he was "disturbed" by them and that it appeared as though i was trying to "crucify" myself. Then he stood and said "sometimes the Devil sends his minions into the heart of the church" and walked away.

I'm in no way trying to say that most christians are like this psycho. I know that they are not. Just reading through the thread, this popped into my mind and I felt like sharing.

[HoustonGM]

I wouldn't pay attention to any of those comments from him. I strongly believe he makes comments like that just to rile everyone up. It's on the same page as when he stated that anyone that wears a cowboy hat is also a racist.

And that Mariano Rivera is a mediocre closer. And Derek Jeter and Rivera not Hall of Famers.

[RickD]

This whole conversation reminds me of an amusing anecdote...

Fade to 9 years ago

My grandmother had just died. She had raised me and I had taken it very hard. She was the first person close to me that had ever died. It was my final year in school. I was taking some interesting elective classes. One was Comparitive Mythology with Dr. David Leeming. Another was American Sign Language.

The Comparative Mythology class came at perfect time in my life. I needed something to help me deal with the loss of my grandmother. I found religions to be too excluding. Too greedy. I had given them up decades earlier. The time I spent with Dr. Leeming opened my eyes to a beauty of the world beyond that that of any devinity. But to tell that story would take too much time...

My brother and his wife were also giving birth to their first child. In my ASL class I had learned that new born children could learn sign language at a much younger age than they could learn to speak. I suggested to my brother that he could learn a little sign language and teach it to is (soon to be) daughter.

There was a church near his house that had a free sign language class once a week. I talked him into taking it, and went with him a few times. Before the class they also had a charity dinner. You donated $5 and you ate a meal prepared by the congregation. My brother and I never went to this despite being asked every week.

One day I had gotten out of work early or something, i don't remember, and I decided to go eat at the church since I was meeting my brother there. I went, paid my $5, got my food, and sat down. I noticed a guy that I knew from the sign language class was watching me from across the room. Once we made eye contact he came and sat with me. We introduced ourselves and made chit-chat. Then he started to ask me about my piercings and tattoos. I explained that each piercing and tattoo that I have is representative of, or came at a time of, struggle or change in my life and that the tattoo or piercing connects me to those times, lest I forget where i came from. He persisted, "but why do you get them?" I didn't have a better answer. He told me that he was "disturbed" by them and that it appeared as though i was trying to "crucify" myself. Then he stood and said "sometimes the Devil sends his minions into the heart of the church" and walked away.

I'm in no way trying to say that most christians are like this psycho. I know that they are not. Just reading through the thread, this popped into my mind and I felt like sharing.

Filihok thank you for sharing that. Unfortunately that type of thing does happen time to time and I am glad you don't think all Christians are like this. It is sad that you went through that experience and I am sorry it happened. The outside truly shouldn't matter. God cares about the heart.

[Matt Average]

its great the guy got his life together. i dont believe in god but if someone i loved was going to kill themselves with drug abuse but then turned to god, jesus, dinosaurs, paris hilton ,optimus prime, the devil, the jersey devil, the new jersey devils, whatever, and it worked out i would be all for it.