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    Re: If Ichiro started his career in MLB

    Quote Originally Posted by boomboom View Post
    He was only 25 when he played his last game in a MLB uniform...he had his prime years in Japan....
    Japan IS a lesser quality league than the MLB.

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    Re: If Ichiro started his career in MLB

    That would explain why his comeback withthe Reds didn't even last past spring training

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    Re: If Ichiro started his career in MLB

    I would say the Japanese league has overall less talent. No need to make judgements about the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcbarr View Post
    That would explain why his comeback withthe Reds didn't even last past spring training
    yes at 37, and it was spring training

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    Re: If Ichiro started his career in MLB

    Rhodes never appeared in more than 95 games in the US and ballparks in Japan are smaller, averaging 395 to Center. Current US stadiums average about 10' more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    I would say the Japanese league has overall less talent. No need to make judgements about the league.
    That's exactly what I was saying. I was not making any judgments about the NPB itself. The NPB is a lesser quality league than the MLB in the same way that AA is a lesser quality league than AAA.

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    Re: If Ichiro started his career in MLB

    I would say that more determines the quality of a league than talent.

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    Re: If Ichiro started his career in MLB

    Not when you're speaking in terms of "quality" being the talent level...

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    Re: If Ichiro started his career in MLB

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Not when you're speaking in terms of "quality" being the talent level...
    talent level: AAA < AA
    league quality: AAA > AA

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    Re: If Ichiro started his career in MLB

    Quote Originally Posted by boomboom View Post
    talent level: AAA < AA
    I don't think that's the case, although I understand why you're saying that.

    Quote Originally Posted by boomboom
    league quality: AAA > AA
    Again, this is entirely dependent on what you're defining as "league quality." When I said that the quality of the NPB is less than the MLB, I'm talking in terms of overall talent level, in the same way that the MLB is a higher quality league than AAA. If you think that AAA has a lower talent level than AA, than you also think that AAA is a lesser quality league, if you're discussing "league quality" in the sense of "talent level", which is what I've been doing.

    Either way, you understand the point, I hope, because this semantic argument is a little ridiculous. When I say that the quality of the NPB is less than that of the MLB, it's the same as if I said that the quality of the Gulf Coast League (a short-season rookie league) is less than that of AA or whatever, because I'm speaking in terms of "quality = talent."

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    Re: If Ichiro started his career in MLB

    Bottom line is that no one can honestly think that Rhodes would have even come close to those sorts of numbers in MLB. Ichiro is far more talented than Rhodes could ever dream to be. Also don't you think there was a reason that no one was begging him to come back to the states?

    Anyhow, Ichiro would have a ton of hits if he had been in MLB the whole time. I don't think there is any way that we can accurately project how many hits, but I would certainly say over 3,000. The way that he approaches hitting would have made him effective at any level of baseball.

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    Yep, very true.

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    4000 hits for him would not be out of the question if he started here
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    Re: If Ichiro started his career in MLB

    Why are they not speaking teh engrish

    also, nice necromancy
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