As a Yankee fan, I'd like to strongly recommend that the Red Sox follow that advice and kick him loose. Yep, guy's a loser. He's only hurting your team. Get rid of him. Please.
Yes, absolutely
Yes, barely
No, it is time to let him go
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As a Yankee fan, I'd like to strongly recommend that the Red Sox follow that advice and kick him loose. Yep, guy's a loser. He's only hurting your team. Get rid of him. Please.
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Then you may need more experience with the workplace, my friend.Originally Posted by WHAK0985
Arguing? Probably not. SHOVING? Yes, I would be gone.
Anyway, what argument are we talking about? The guy said he might have trouble getting the tickets. THAT is feedback. What Ramirez did was completely unprovoked.
As I said, I don't know what the Sox should do. I understand the sentiment that he's too valuable to get rid of (though I find it disturbing that he IS being treated differently from Chacon, who was at least provoked into his attack.)
I'll repeat my above statement: If the Sox keep him (no doubt), and because they don't deal with this harshly (again, probable) there is another incident, then the Sox are culpable for letting it happen.
agreed. Red Sox Nation loves Manny, and "Manny being Manny" is something to describe his.......antics (for a lack of a better word). The whole thing is it would be really hard to replace Manny in the lineup at his price. The only LF I can think of off the top of my head that could come close is Carlos Lee, but he wouldn't play the wall like Manny can. In Fenway, Manny is the best at playing the wall. He plays balls off the wall like a 2B...just flipping it as fast as he can to the infield.
Red Sox fans are rabid. I watch every game, and live and die on every pitch. Tek struck out last night in the 9th, and I went around the house yelling. This is normal. My GF yells just as much...if not MORE SO if they do bad.
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I'm NOT part of Red Sox nation, or Yankee town (if that's a phrase), so my bias is neither way. But here's what I don't get. Does great talent mean any behavior is OK? I'll bet a lot of the Red Sox nation folks defending Manny are also the loudest to scream at Bond's behavior. Seems like if that were true, it would be hypocritical.
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Not any behavior but talent gives alot more latitude in any situation in sports. This is nothing new, That's exactly why Bonds was a sulky jackass and still got 18 mil a year from SF.
Talent is why Latrell Sprewell got a job after attacking his coach.
Talent is why Elijah Dukes is getting a chance In Washington
Talent is why the Cowboys Traded to get Adam Jones.
The list goes on and on and on and on.
the biggest difference between Bonds and Manny is Bonds alienated himself from his own teammates where Manny is well liked in the clubhouse.
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None of us knows what excatly happened. "A shove" can be a few different things. Not trying to say that Manny's behavior is ok, it clearly is not, but we don't know if Manny pushed the guy down in the middle of the floor or if McCormick turned away from Manny and pushed his shoulder to turn him back around or what.
It's up to the Red Sox to deal with this. I don't recall hearing other stories of Manny being violent towards anyone. I don't think he's a time bomb waiting to go off (Milton Bradley). Maybe I'm putting myself out there, but I've shoved someone before and I suspect that most of you have too. And none of us seem to be threats to society.
It is a work place, and that makes it different, but MLB is a different workplace than most. Nobody gets fired for a bench clearing brawl. Suspended maybe, but not fired. Not too many jobs will let you flip off the customers as often as professional sports do.
Maybe there should be more strict rules regarding these outbursts, of all types.
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I've done a lot more than shove. Of course, I've also had to restrain people doing a lot more than shoving. And we don't know the whole story here. We don't know in which manner Manny was informed.
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