What's the (real) excuse for this one?

[MeetDaMets]

it also occurs to me that if one lives in a death penalty state,
it's likely quite normal for citizens to call for the death of an alleged murderer.

and re-reading rongars post ,
i think you are incorrectly taking me as meaning
it is ok to post or create a blog on the internet or advertise in a newpaper
that "calls for the death" of a very specific person.
Your particular reference also included a million dollar bounty as i recall.

not the same as saying
I think that people who think specific ethnic groups are inherently inferior,
and therefore must be exterminated,

are the ones who should be exterminated.



one world

[dickay]

it also occurs to me that if one lives in a death penalty state,
it's likely quite normal for citizens to call for the death of an alleged murderer.

and re-reading rongars post ,
i think you are incorrectly taking me as meaning
it is ok to post or create a blog on the internet or advertise in a newpaper
that "calls for the death" of a very specific person.
Your particular reference also included a million dollar bounty as i recall.

not the same as saying
I think that people who think specific ethnic groups are inherently inferior,
and therefore must be exterminated,

are the ones who should be exterminated.



one world

Back as late as the early 20th century, much of America's elite may have disagreed with this. If you guys REALLY want to research some dark shiite, google 'Eugenics' and learn how America 'sterilized' woman they deemed as 'feebleminded' or alcoholics, criminals and prostitutes so they could not reproduce. Sterilization could save future generations boatloads of cash by getting rid of their 'bad genetics'. The Supreme Court actually AGREED with this practice in at least one ruling!! There was a thought that kind of like horses of today, those who were not intelligent or even poor or with disease and retardation should not be allowed to reproduce and a few went as far as sayign they should be euthanized. Some actually believe that this AMERICAN THOUGHT led Hitler and Nazi Germany to take it to an extreme and begin the ethnic cleansing. Could America really have been Hitlers inspiration?

Really some deep dark interesting shiite that isn't taught in school history books. There may be some merit to the thought, but definitely an ethical dillemma, one that we will most certainly skirt again with cloning and gene technology.

Here's a link; http://www.eugenicsarchive.org/eugenics/

[dickay]

This is the statement from the Supreme Court after the 'Carrie Buck' ruling which stated she could be sterilized.

"It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind....three generations of imbeciles are enough."

Buck apparently had a child out of wedlock, her mother had apparently done the same and was in an institution. It was said she had hereditary traits of feeblemindedness and sexual promiscuity. It was later uncovered (after the steriliaztion)( that she not only had good grades but was raped, hence the pregnancy.

There are believed to be a recording of more than 60,000 Americans who were sterilized under these laws, up to as late as the mid 1970's!!

Can you just imagine how many in todays society would meet the sterilization guidelines??? Sorry to ramble, but this stuff is pretty amazing and well hidden as I'm sure many of you have never heard of it.

[Arctic Blast]

The same sorts of programs occurred in Canada, as well. Women under the care of the state were usually deemed 'unworthy and obviously unfit', so sterilization was the way to go. Also, new immigrant women were given IQ tests...score too low, and that was all the 'evidence' needed. Of course, nobody stopped to consider whether the new immigrant's lack of understanding of the English language MAY in some cases have affected their scores on a test WRITTEN IN ENGLISH. The Sexual Sterilization Act was shot down in...1972. More than a little disturbing to realize this **** was still legal only 36 years ago.

[dickay]

haha, looks like I found a way to kill this thread lol.

[Arctic Blast]

Fine work!