Really?...the only time that women smile at me is when I wear a cap...especially if the peak is large enough to cover my face....Originally Posted by Alloutwar
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Really?...the only time that women smile at me is when I wear a cap...especially if the peak is large enough to cover my face....
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To each is gi'en a bag of tools
Some mentors, and a set of rules:
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You live, according to one of your other posts, in Staten Island. And you have the nerve to voice generalizations about all Southerners.
Perhaps I should say that everyone on Staten Island is affiliated with the Mafia? Or that all Bronx residents are crack cocaine users, pimps, and murderers? Or maybe I could just characterize Brooklynites as uneducated recent immigrants who can't even speak proper English?
I could keep going on.
Personally, I am proud to be a Southerner, although I was born in New England. I am proud of my non-slaveholding ancestors who resisted the invasion of their sovereign territory by the United States, just as I am proud of my non-slaveholding ancestors of a couple generations previous who resisted the invasion of their territory by Great Britain.
A few simple facts:
In 1860, less than 10% of the white population of the South owned any slaves, and less than 1% owned more than 2.
The greatest volume of slaves brought into America before the Civil War were imported through New York.
In 1776, every state in the Union permitted slavery. 6 states which fought on the side of the Union (Maryland, Delaware, Kentucky, Missouri, Kansas, and Illinois) permitted slavery in 1860.
Neither side of the Civil War considered slavery to be a primary issue until 1863, 2 years into the War, when Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation, as a tool to keep Britain from supporting the Confederacy.
Abraham Lincoln stated publicly, to a group of freed blacks, that blacks were not and never would be the equal of whites.
Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederacy, adopted a black child.
T. J. "Stonewall" Jackson, the great Confederate General, taught slaves to read and write, and helped many to escape to Canada via the Underground Railroad.
Robert E. Lee, the general-in-chief of the Confederacy, not only owned no slaves himself, but actively campaigned for the general emancipation of slaves in the Confederacy, and their recruitment into the army, a full 2 years before the Union considered the idea of using black troops.
Get your history and your facts straight before you mouth off about how horrible other people are.
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I should probably also mention that the first elected black governor in the United States was L. Douglas Wilder, Governor of Virginia, elected in 1989.
Massachusetts, that bastion of racial tolerance, elected its first black governor in 2006.
New York, your home state, got its first black governor in 2008, but it didn't elect him, he succeeded your lily-white governor, who got busted for ****ing around with call-girls.
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1) I agree about the Bronx, because I hate the Yankees...
2) Yes, you are from New England. So your ancestors are New Englanders as well (I assume), so they must've been AGAINST slavery.
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1) Virginia isn't really deep South. So it's relatively believable.
2) Massachusetts and New York never really had any black candidates (to my knowledge). That's not really the voters' fault.
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Wow, what twisted logic...
I was born in Massachusetts, so my ancestors must have been against slavery.
Hmm...
lets simply go with the four branches of my family represented by my grandparents.
Maternal Grandfather...first generation American. His father emigrated from Quebec, his mother from Ireland. So my ancestors on that quarter had no role whatsoever in slavery or anything else in America prior to about 1920.
Maternal Grandmother...well, here you go. My mother's mother was an Adams. Yes, those Adamses. Go back enough generations and there's two U.S. Presidents and countless other public servants there. And as far as I know, they were all anti-slavery and fought on the side of the Union.
Paternal Grandfather...sterotypical Southerner. Grew up in Virginia, although his family was from Western North Carolina. And as far back as I can go, no Willards ever owned slaves in Virginia or North Carolina.
Paternal Grandmother...as old a family as you can get on this continent. Her ancestors came to Virginia with the Huguenots in 1693, and in over 300 years on this continent, never owned slaves. Huguenots didn't.
My ancestors were non-slaveholding New Englanders, and non-slaveholding Southerners. I have ancestors who fought on both sides of the Civil War.
The simple fact is that, whatever you may have been indoctrinated in school, northerners were equally responsible for the slave trade in America as southerners. Virtually all of the slaving ships in the 17th and 18th centuries were operated out of New England and New York. Bostonians and New Yorkers were primarily responsible for operating the vast maritime business known as the "Triangle Trade" between Africa, the West Indies, and America.
I suppose you probably think all of us who oppose Barack Obama are simply racist, too. And you probably think anyone who owns, flies, or even tolerates the Confederate Flag is a closet member of the KKK.
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really we're still humor this guy ??
He obviously can't be serious as no one can be that ignorant.
He has no facts, or experiences in this field in which he is commenting. The fact that anyone is trying to converse with someone, who is obviously just making stuff up to try to seem "racy" or "cool", is starting to amaze me.
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I generally agree with this statement.
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deep south?
Virginia is as deep as that
Georgia was a late commer. in the confederacy
A grandad fought with the 15th cav Ill was he north?
he resided in Kentuckey was he north or south?
a nother fought in units of North Carolina against the Brits
I would assume his grand kids fought for North Carolina most caried their state flag north and south .
Maryland was more determined to hold slavery but was trumped by Habius corpus
Lincoln wasn't abought to alow MD to suceed with the Federal capitol in the middle.
Kentucky and Missouri ya might as well call 50/50
Ya ever wonder why the territory of Oklahoma went south?
were there a lot of plantations there?
giving those shock jocks attention made his day
that makes rattings
and his pay
thats why hes still on the air
aint listen to em don't see anyreason to whats he got ta say that i want ta here nothing.
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You do realize you're simply making as *** of yourself, right?
Every single person who tolerates the Confederate Flag is a racist and a member of the KKK?
That's about as ludicrous as one of your previous statements that Darryl Strawberry and Dwight Gooden were more honorable people than anyone who had ever played for the Yankees.
I used to think Yankee fans were the most irrational people in sports. Thank you for showing me that Mets fans are worse.
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And of course, every New Englander from years ago was against slavery.
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How is this any different than saying most southerners are racist?
A hand full of irrational people doesn't mean everyone in a group fits a stereotype.
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Hyperbole. Obviously I don't think that every Mets (or Yankees) fan is anywhere near as irrational as this one.
New York City couldn't function if its citizenry were in such poor logical shape.
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Wow this thread got off track fast. OK I grew up in TN. My best friend there was a black guy and I heard him make the same comments as Imus...that cops "arrest blacks for no reason. They shoot blacks for no reason." When a guy was arrested he also would say, "was he black?" These questions to me do not reflect racism as much as they comment on societal thinking and in some places a fact of life.
However reading the comments made by an individual on this thread with generalizations of the south is to me even more shocking. Stark generalizations based on faulty logic is to me the height of ignorance. I would advise this individual to take a road trip around the country......even overseas...then try making the same statement!
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