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    Re: What's Wrong with the Mets?

    Why are you leaving out on-base percentage?

    Church - .365
    Reyes - .352
    Wright - .378

    Also, see my post above with the VORP's and why Reyes leads the Mets in that category, with Wright second and Church 4th.

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    I don't care about VORP or whatever it is, lol.

    I didn't mean to leave out OBP, but I think that just further strengthens my case anyways. Sure, Wright has a slightly better OBP at the moment, but even with the factored in, my other stats show that when healthy, Church was indeed carrying the Mets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolzach1 View Post
    I don't care about VORP or whatever it is, lol.
    Well, it gives more context to the discussion, because it compares players to those at their position. Jose Reyes's offense out of the shortstop position is more valuable than Ryan Church's out of a corner outfield spot, because shortstops, as a whole, are worse offensively.

    I didn't mean to leave out OBP, but I think that just further strengthens my case anyways. Sure, Wright has a slightly better OBP at the moment, but even with the factored in, my other stats show that when healthy, Church was indeed carrying the Mets.
    I wouldn't say carrying. One of their best offensive players, though, yes.

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    Re: What's Wrong with the Mets?

    meh,

    a year or so ago ...

    " hey guys guess what ?? we just lost 13 in a row but were still wayyyy out in front of the rest of the division !! how cool are we ??? "

    the fire died right there. it hasnt come back.
    see "come from behind victories" ( or lack of them )
    for evidence of a team that doesnt seem to mind rolling over anymore. :

    a little over 2 years ago

    " this is the best Mets team i have ever seen. and i been watchin since the early 70's. The way the are playing right now Im tellin ya , i really do think they are better than 86 . Cross your fingers for NO Catatstrophic injuries and we are truly in the hunt for at least 4 years..were talkin possible dynasty here"

    oy !

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    Re: What's Wrong with the Mets?

    Ya know... This is probably one of the best Muts team's ever... Sad.

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    Re: What's Wrong with the Mets?

    '06 RBI's

    Wright - 116
    Beltran 116
    Delgado - 114

    (* 99 was the only other season Mets had 3 players 100+ RBI)

    07
    Wright 107
    Beltran 112
    DelGado 87

    (40 rbi less between them)

    08 ...
    etc

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    Re: What's Wrong with the Mets?

    I am starting to think that hiring
    Charlie Brown as a motivational speaker
    for the bullpen was not such a good idea.


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    Re: What's Wrong with the Mets?

    Wow, the Mets are friggin' pathetic.

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    Re: What's Wrong with the Mets?

    We gotta trade Wagner, Perez, and Delgado and fire Willie...
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    Re: What's Wrong with the Mets?

    I love it when fans call for a guy to be traded after 3 bad games.

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    Re: What's Wrong with the Mets?

    "What's Wrong with the Mets? "

    Well, for starters, they are the Mets.

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    Re: What's Wrong with the Mets?

    Guys, not only are key players underperforming, they're playing without that competitive fire. They need a new manager who can inspire them to play. Willie is a good manager and will get a job soon after being fired but the team has quit listening to him

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    Re: What's Wrong with the Mets?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    I love it when fans call for a guy to be traded after 3 bad games.
    Well, it's obvious that Billy and Carlos have nothing left in the tank, and Perez never had anything in the tank to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metsguy234 View Post
    Well, it's obvious that Billy
    It is? How so?

    and Carlos have nothing left in the tank
    Possibly. He's being doing well since mid-May. But, you're not gonna find a take for Delgado.

    and Perez never had anything in the tank to begin with.
    Dude has a ton of potential, as he's proven before, but just has major issues harnessing it.

    My comment was really just about Wagner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    It is? How so?
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    3 blown saves in a row, his fastball was down to like 90-91 in his last appearance.
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