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Thread: ALL-TIME TOP 100: Catchers

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    Re: ALL-TIME TOP 100: Catchers

    You are correct, jcbarr, and virtually all baseball analysts agree that defensive stats are difficult to measure. Offense is...what is is. Defense is not. Attempts to evaluate defensive stats, like the defensive measures in Win Shares, are somewhat fuzzy. This doesnt mean that they have no value.... just that they are somewhat of an educated guess.

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    Re: ALL-TIME TOP 100: Catchers

    Quote Originally Posted by yankee hater View Post
    I am aware of this. Bill James however did not use the new improved defensive stats. Also, I already complained about the 'objectivity' of the study due to its subjective weighting.
    He didn't use the improved defensive stats for two perfectly legitimate reasons, one of which you've mentioned.

    1) They don't go far back in history, and James wanted Win Shares to be able to compare players from different eras.
    2) When he developed Win Shares, improved defensive stats like UZR, +/-, RZR, etc. were still very much in their infancy.

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    Re: ALL-TIME TOP 100: Catchers

    Thanks Hater. I am quite aware of what jcbarr was saying. I agreed, and added my own observations. You need a hobby, or something. You appear to be looking to argue anything, at any time. Of course, thats what a few others do as well. You know, the ones you disdain?

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