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    Too Good at 12??

    Girl, 12, told she can't play ball with boys

    You play ball like a girl.

    That used to be an insult. In Beaverton, Oregon, it's becoming more like a fantasy.

    Jaime Nared, a 12-year-old girl who stands 6-foot-1, has been told she can no longer play on the boys team of which she has been a member since the second grade, according to a report on the Web site of The Oregonian. Curiously, the timing of her ban came in the wake of a 30-point effort against an all-boys team.

    "She scored 30 points," Jaime's mom, Reiko Williams, told The Oregonian. "I remember one play. She stole the ball, dribbled up court and made a behind-the-back pass to a teammate. He missed the lay-in, and she grabbed the rebound and put it in. I think it was just too much for some of those parents.

    "The next day, she came home and said they wouldn't let her play with the boys anymore."

    Last month, a group of parents from an opposing team told management at The Hoop, a private Beaverton basketball facility that runs the league in which Nared's team competes, that they didn't like Nared playing against their sons. Hoop officials then told Nared's coach, Michael Abraham, that she could no longer play, citing a league rule that prohibits mixed-gender teams, the newspaper reported.

    "I never saw the rule," said Abraham, who has coached basketball for 32 years.

    "If I'd known about it, I wouldn't have put any of my teams in the league. Besides, she's been playing on this team since second grade, and she plays on our team when we travel around the region. There's never been any problem in any event, not one word of complaint."

    Neal Franzer, The Hoop's director of operations, told the paper that parents were "adamant" their complaints had nothing to do with Jaime's skills.

    "They said the problem was the boys were playing differently against her because she was a girl," Franzer said, according to the paper. "They'd been taught to not push a girl, so they weren't fouling her hard, and the focus had shifted from playing basketball to noticing a girl was on the floor with them.

    "The rule may not have been enforced in past years," Franzer said. "We have new management this year. It's policy, and we enforce policy."

    Nared, however, had a different take.

    "I think the boys on a specific team don't like me," she said. "It doesn't seem fair."

    Abraham was also skeptical about the ruling.

    "I can't think of one boy that we've played against that's had a problem with her," he said. "Maybe their dads do. Teach the boys how to handle her. Front her, deny her the ball. You sure as **** don't complain. Listen, she's a girl's girl, but she plays tough. She's no cupcake. She gets knocked down and takes a charge."

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    Re: Too Good at 12??

    6'1"! I'm not sure I know a 12 year old boy who's that tall.
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    "They said the problem was the boys were playing differently against her because she was a girl," Franzer said, according to the paper. "They'd been taught to not push a girl, so they weren't fouling her hard, and the focus had shifted from playing basketball to noticing a girl was on the floor with them.
    And that's supposed to make it better?!?
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    All I have to say, if they weren't playing what basketball players consider "rough", they weren't playing within a 6 foot perimeter of her.
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    Re: Too Good at 12??

    pretty sad

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this Danny Almonte's daughter?


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    Re: Too Good at 12??

    Really coaches are riding TWELVE -YEAR-OLDS for not making HARD FOULS!!!

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    I have never seen a 12 yeard old basketball game that wasn't a hack-fest, so I find it hard to believe that she wasn't being fouled.

    I mean 6-1...that is quite the advantage at 12 years old I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gRYFYN1 View Post
    Really coaches are riding TWELVE -YEAR-OLDS for not making HARD FOULS!!!
    Yea, that thought crossed my mind as well.
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    If there is not a girls team at the highschool, then of course she should be allowed to play on the guys team, if she's good enough to make the team.

    But, what if we were talking about a guy playing on a girls team? Would anyone really have a problem with not letting him play?

    It reminds me of when female golfers play with the men. If that is okay, then have Tiger play on all the LPGA events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by free2131 View Post
    If there is not a girls team at the highschool, then of course she should be allowed to play on the guys team, if she's good enough to make the team.

    But, what if we were talking about a guy playing on a girls team? Would anyone really have a problem with not letting him play?

    It reminds me of when female golfers play with the men. If that is okay, then have Tiger play on all the LPGA events.
    Uhhh...High School? She's TWELVE.

    It sounds like she's played with these guys for a number of years, and they just like playing together.

    And, all Tiger needs is a sponsor's exemption. Not really comparable, though, because he wouldn't, because they would never come close to paying him enough money. It doesn't sound like there is an alternative team for her to play on, while he has the PGA.

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    OK, I'll be the crazy one since no one else will be. There shouldn't be mens and women's teams, period. Schools should be required to allow anyone who wishes to play sports, to play. All they need to do is to create different team levels, and if some player is skilled enough to make the primary team then so be it. Everyone else can play on the junior team(s), or whatever they want to be called.
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    Re: Too Good at 12??

    I kind of agree with that, actually...it would be more fitting with other intergender situations that were previously dominated by males. After all, do we have male and female fire departments? No. As long as whoever is wearing that gear can pull my unconscious butt out of a burning house if the need arises, I don't care if that person is male and female. If a person can do the job, they're in. Pretty simple.

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