What happens in this situation

[jcbarr]

That does make more sense. Why should they be penalized for losing the playoff. The wildcard is supposed to be decided on the regular season record, so it would only make sense for the loser of the first game to have to play the other team.

[Swampdog]

So, in BM, in this scenario, the Yankees just get a free pass into the postseason? And the two teams tied for their division have to engage in a playoff game, with the victor advancing as division winner, and the loser is just s.o.l.? If this is how its designed to work... then its a bad design.

[Swampdog]

I can only hope that the original poster is incorrect, and the Yankees actually won their division. This just seems like a serious deficiency to me. I think I will sim a few seasons to determine if this is actually programmed into the game.

[jshaw]

I can only hope that the original poster is incorrect, and the Yankees actually won their division. This just seems like a serious deficiency to me. I think I will sim a few seasons to determine if this is actually programmed into the game.

Nope Bo Sox won the division by 1 game over the Yankees

[Swampdog]

ok, I'm done, and jshaw is right. The game just screws him out of a chance to win the wild card after he loses the divisional playoff game. Specifically, I have Phi winning the East at 102-60, and Col in the West at 87-75. The Mets are second in the East at 89-73. The Central is a tie, Chi and Stl both at 89-73. So, as in the initial posting, the Central is in doubt, as is the wild card.

NYM 89-73
CHC 89-73
STL 89-73

In the game, the Cubs and Cards play a one game playoff, which the Cubs win, so they take the division at 90-73. No problem so far. In MLB, the Cardinals would now be required to play the Mets to determine the WC winner. However, in BM, the Cards have now been eliminated (at 89-74) and the Mets get a free pass, and get the WC at 89-73.

Thats a very poor conclusion to the season, and is a real flaw in the game. Another good reason to play only historical seasons, before they had all this wild card nonsense.

[boomboom]

1995 Wildcard and AL west. This is a true story BTW.
So unless the rules have changed, since 1995... What BM does it correctly.

Mariners, Angels and Yankees were tied on the last day of the season.
Mariners under the Big Unit and Luis Sojo inside the park Grand Slam beat former Mariner Mark Langston and the angels 9-1 (Mariners go the playoffs, after being down 13 games in august).

Angels are knocked out of the playoffs (they are 1 game back of the Mariners and 1/2 game back of the yankees) ... Mariners Win the AL west, and Yankees win the Wildcard.

The Mariners end up beating the Yankees in the divisional series 3games to 2 on the bat of Edgar Martinez famous Double with Junior Sliding home for the winning run.

Ah the good ol' days...

[jshaw]

[boomboom]

What am I looking at in this PIC?

[Swampdog]

In 1995, the regular season ended on Sunday, Oct 1, with the Yankees at 79-65, and Seattle and the Angels at 78-66. New York won the WC at that point. Mariners and Angels played the one game playoff on Monday, Oct 2, to determine the West division winner... with the loser going home.

[boomboom]

hmm... Dang, I thought it was a 3 way tie all these years...my bad

[Swampdog]

That was only the third "regular season playoff" game in AL history. In all three cases, the team that caught the leader and forced the playoff on the final day, lost the playoff game. Seattle blew a 2 game lead with 2 games left... the Angels won both their games... and then Seattle held on to win the decider, as BB observed.

[jshaw]

What am I looking at in this PIC?

just showing that Boston won the division in 2009 and not the Yankees

[boomboom]

Seattle did catch the Angels then went ahead of them for a few days...the funny part is that in August they were 13 games back..so in reality they were the team from behind... but in terms of who tied who, the Angels won and Seattle Lost.

[OldFatGuy]

ok, I'm done, and jshaw is right. The game just screws him out of a chance to win the wild card after he loses the divisional playoff game. Specifically, I have Phi winning the East at 102-60, and Col in the West at 87-75. The Mets are second in the East at 89-73. The Central is a tie, Chi and Stl both at 89-73. So, as in the initial posting, the Central is in doubt, as is the wild card.

NYM 89-73
CHC 89-73
STL 89-73

In the game, the Cubs and Cards play a one game playoff, which the Cubs win, so they take the division at 90-73. No problem so far. In MLB, the Cardinals would now be required to play the Mets to determine the WC winner. However, in BM, the Cards have now been eliminated (at 89-74) and the Mets get a free pass, and get the WC at 89-73.

Thats a very poor conclusion to the season, and is a real flaw in the game. Another good reason to play only historical seasons, before they had all this wild card nonsense.

I could've sworn that's NOT the case in MLB. The "playoff" game between the two teams for the division is actually considered a regular season game, thus the LOSER of that game finishes a half game behind the team not involved in the division playoff. I have searched MLB.COM and can't find a definitive answer, though I did see the post on (was it Fox sports of CBS, not sure). It's just those sites can make mistakes too, (and God knows I'm probably wrong on this), but I could've sworn that in the case of three teams tied and two are fighting for the division, they play a one game "playoff", but because it's considered a regular season game, the lose is left a half game behind the third team.

Man, I know I didn't explain that right, I'm great at butchering the english language.

[jcbarr]

It may be the way that MLB does it, but it doesn't make it right.