He is...Originally Posted by Coach Owens
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He is...
Problemo?
So Jarrod Washburn is pitching decent? His FIP (4.78) is worse, but his xFIP (4.51) is better. Washburn sucks.
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Chacon is doing a better job keeping runs off the board. Washburn is pitching better than his 5.68 ERA would indicate.
And Washburn doesn't "suck" unless you think a league-average pitcher sucks. I don't.
Problemo?
Dave Cameron sure doesn't think he's "League-average". He thinks he sucks.
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Well every single piece of evidence goes against that.
His ERA+ from 2003 through 2007 was 103. His ERA+'s in each individual season read 99, 97, 132, 95, 100. If that's not league-average, I don't know what is.
Problemo?
ERA+isnotgoodforevaluatingpitcher'sfutureperformance;ERA+isnotgoodforevaluatingp itcher'sfutureperfomance.
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And I'm not. I'm using it to evaluate his past performance - he's been a league average pitcher. His peripheral stats (which are good for evaluating future performance) also indicate a league average pitcher. Nothing indicates that he's done being a league average pitcher.
So, what exactly are you using to claim that Jarrod Washburn, a league average pitcher for multiple years now, all of a sudden sucks?
Valentine Lake Horror
ERA+, like so very many stats, is used to show what a player has accomplished in the past. Every stat in baseball does not have to be an indicator of expected future performance, and most are not.
Problemo?
Well, not only is his fastball slow, (generally 85-86 MPH) but it doesn't move at all. Anyways, I'll just leave you this from Dave on his post on USSM today:
"And, really, Jarrod Washburn is a lousy pitcher. Those who think otherwise don’t understand how to evaluate pitching talent."
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That's such a convincing argument.
Did you know that Jarrod Washburn's peripheral stats are actually better so far in 2008 than they've been? He's been the victim of a high BABIP and high HR/FB rate.
Problemo?
Whatever. As an M's fan who watches every game, I know he's terrible.
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Because a conclusion can be drawn from 44 innings, right?Whatever. As an M's fan who watches every game, I know he's terrible.
Problemo?
He sucked last year, too. Okay, bye!
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Again, only if you think league average sucks...considering he was exactly league average last season.
I think you're just angry that the Mariners suck.
E=I*R
Me too. lolI think you're just angry that the Mariners suck.
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