Agreed...I am all for equal rights but let's not pick and choose...you want to play with the big boys you gt treated EXACTLY like the big boys...No FAVORTISM, NO SPECIAL TREATMENT.Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet
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Agreed...I am all for equal rights but let's not pick and choose...you want to play with the big boys you gt treated EXACTLY like the big boys...No FAVORTISM, NO SPECIAL TREATMENT.
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How is it?
I have an opinion on it, and I'm arguing my viewpoint.
I don't think it's an issue of respect. A debate is a back and forth between two opposing sides. As long as both sides are being civil, which they are, there's nothing wrong with it.Anyway I give up....you will ultimately shoot down every argument and there's no point in going on about it. I respect you enough not to continue debating it.
I guess I'm just used to the debate forum on the other site I visit, where debates can go on for hundreds of posts..
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Separate locker rooms and showers is not favoritism, nor is it special treatment.
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I agree debates can be healthy....Back and forth....it's just sometimes you do seem to go too far (in trying to get the last word)...anyway....nothing personal....continue.....
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I don't see how I've gone too far, or been trying to get the last word. You've posted your arguments, I've refuted them...Feel free to refute my points.
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How is it not? If 54 guys have one locker room and shower facilities how is giving one player (male or female) a seperate facility NOT special treatment....and
as mentioned by others....so the slapping, punching, name calling, all ok? I think not. Women's rights groups would mutilate a guy who did that, sports or not.
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Ok never mind then....
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Having separate locker rooms, bathrooms and showers for males and females is not special treatment. It's not like you're giving one person a special place to go. You're giving males one place to shower and change, and females one palce to shower and change. There's no special treatment going on there.
Slapping, punching, and name-calling fellow teammates? Or what? If it's the opposing team, that stuff is wrong whether or not it's males or females. If it's the same team, well, it's still wrong.as mentioned by others....so the slapping, punching, name calling, all ok? I think not. Women's rights groups would mutilate a guy who did that, sports or not.
Unless you're talking of the friendly kind of slapping/high-fiving and joke-like name-calling, in which case, I don't think womens' rights groups would have a problem.
In any case, yes, women that plays a sport that is predominantly male should be expected to be treated just like any other player on the field, and womens' rights groups would have to accept that it is the womens' choice to place said sport, knowing full well that she will be treated like any other player.
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It is when you want the guys to treat them as equals!Except a special locker room, shower, etc.
Do you watch sports...hockey....football....even baseball there is serious razzing. It may be wrong but it happens...every day...every game!
Would you feel comfortable seeing a woman hockey player slammed into the boards by a guy? A woman running back being pummeled by a linebacker? It also would affect how a guy plays....
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separate but equal eh?? Yeah, i think we may have been through that before.
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Are you nutz? The first slap on the arse and woman would be SCREAMING over the radio and picketing games. I agree they should be able to play, but you 'underestimate' how far these rights groups will go. Talk about hypocrites.....they embody it.Unless you're talking of the friendly kind of slapping/high-fiving and joke-like name-calling, in which case, I don't think womens' rights groups would have a problem.
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I gotta say, for you guys who don't seem to think women are capable somehow of playing a contact sport, do yourself a favor, go watch a women's rugby game. They are downright BRUTAL on the field. I have seen women's rugby that was easily ten times more violent and impactful than the men's version, on a regular basis.
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Why is a separate locker room "special"? It's not "special."
I would feel indifferent to it. There are women that are perfectly capable of withstanding such physical events.Would you feel comfortable seeing a woman hockey player slammed into the boards by a guy? A woman running back being pummeled by a linebacker?
It would obviously require a change in thinking, I suppose.It also would affect how a guy plays....
I think that the reasons why there should be separate locker rooms, showers, and bathrooms are abundantly clear, and it has nothing to do with special treating, letting them be equal on the field but not off, etc. Men and women can and should be treated equally on and off the field, even though they change clothes, shower, and relieve themselves in different rooms.
I think this argument about making it so that the sports are equal right down to the locker room is just a way to make the "pro-women in sports" side look hypocritical for wanting women to be allowed to play, despite having separate locker rooms. There's no preferential treatment going on there, or anything, though, so, it fails to hold up, I think.
You're right, but that just makes them ridiculous. If women were allowed to play, it'd be their choice, and they would know what it entails. Rights group may call out, but any women that is making the choice to play the game would have no right to complain because it's her choice.Are you nutz? The first slap on the arse and woman would be SCREAMING over the radio and picketing games. I agree they should be able to play, but you 'underestimate' how far these rights groups will go. Talk about hypocrites.....they embody it.
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I agree they should have different locker rooms and it's an argument made to support a biased view. As I read this thread however, you attempt to take a moral stand and pick apart regardless of view everyones posts...so I figured I'd do the same with yours.I think that the reasons why there should be separate locker rooms, showers, and bathrooms are abundantly clear, and it has nothing to do with special treating, letting them be equal on the field but not off, etc. Men and women can and should be treated equally on and off the field, even though they change clothes, shower, and relieve themselves in different rooms.
I think this argument about making it so that the sports are equal right down to the locker room is just a way to make the "pro-women in sports" side look hypocritical for wanting women to be allowed to play, despite having separate locker rooms. There's no preferential treatment going on there, or anything, though, so, it fails to hold up, I think.
It is hypocritical for you to say they should have everything equal, and then say they should be separate however. It can never be completely equal as we are adults and understand woman and men on a team should have different locker rooms. Our society once said blacks and whites should have separate but equal bathrooms and schools. How'd that work? Truth is, everything comes as a package, and providing a separate locker room for one female on a team of 25 players is segregating her. There will probably be numerous other obstacles that segregate her which she'd have to deal with, similar to Jackie Robinson but to a far less degree.
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So Jackie Robinson had no right to complain about hate crimes, being called a nig__, and the like because he chose to play baseball??You're right, but that just makes them ridiculous. If women were allowed to play, it'd be their choice, and they would know what it entails. Rights group may call out, but any women that is making the choice to play the game would have no right to complain because it's her choice.
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