What now for the NYY?

[RickD]

2006-2008 W-L

Wang - 44-13
Webb - 41-18
Santana - 37-21
Oswalt - 32-18
Sabathia - 32-23

I'm taking Wang!

[Swampdog]

Just curious.....if you were GM of the Yankees, and the Mets offerred you Santana for Wang, right now, straight up....you turn them down? For Webb? Beckett? Others?

[dickay]

2006-2008 W-L

Wang - 44-13
Webb - 41-18
Santana - 37-21
Oswalt - 32-18
Sabathia - 32-23

I'm taking Wang!

Only a Yankee fan homer dope would take Wang over Santana, Webb, and even Oswalt. He's got 44 wins because there's a 150 million dollar offense behind him. Put Wang on the Twins and he wouldn't have 15 wins.

Oh, BTW....how'd he fare in the playoffs?????

At least as fans, try to act intelligent.

[RickD]

As a Yankee fan homer dope I would not trade Wang straight up for any of the other guys you listed for a couple of reasons: 1. I am a Wang fan. 2. Why trade a proven investment for someone who may do worse coming to the Yankees. 3. I'm not intelligent! 4. I am a Yankees Fan!

[Alloutwar]

I like Wang - I like that the Yankees brought someone up, rather than buying a proven free agent. He is a great groundball pitcher.

However, he has to do it for a while longer before he's got a shot of being in the league of Beckett, Santana, all those; I don't see him as that level of dominance just yet. I think Jason Shields would probably do as well (if not better), if he had the Yankees offense every day.

But he is talented and doing very well; congrats Yanks fans.

[dickay]

I like Wang - I like that the Yankees brought someone up, rather than buying a proven free agent. He is a great groundball pitcher.

However, he has to do it for a while longer before he's got a shot of being in the league of Beckett, Santana, all those; I don't see him as that level of dominance just yet. I think Jason Shields would probably do as well (if not better), if he had the Yankees offense every day.

But he is talented and doing very well; congrats Yanks fans.

Well put....as a Sox fan I say you maybe even undervalue Wang but you're analysis is much closer than those homer's in here talking like he's Koufax.

Hey, I can understanding liking a home grown talent who's performed well. But if you can't look past your homer bias, you probably shouldn't try to discuss baseball in a forum.

[RickD]

I was thinking more Guidry than Koufax!

[HoustonGM]

2006-2008 W-L

Wang - 44-13
Webb - 41-18
Santana - 37-21
Oswalt - 32-18
Sabathia - 32-23

I'm taking Wang!

This doesn't prove anything except that Wang gets better run support. Gee, i wonder why. He wouldn't happen to be on a team that routinely scores more runs than everybody else, would he?

[koolzach1]

I like Wang - I like that the Yankees brought someone up, rather than buying a proven free agent. He is a great groundball pitcher.

However, he has to do it for a while longer before he's got a shot of being in the league of Beckett, Santana, all those; I don't see him as that level of dominance just yet. I think Jason Shields would probably do as well (if not better), if he had the Yankees offense every day.

But he is talented and doing very well; congrats Yanks fans.

Yeah, I hate when teams "buy" their players... AKA, Red Sox with how many homegrown players on their team? Oh, yeah, that's right... Less than the Yankees

In the league of Beckett? Oh, you mean that guy that had a 5.01 ERA 2 seasons ago, and has a 4.19 ERA this season so far. Gotcha... I hope that Wang gets to his level one day

Only a Yankee fan homer dope would take Wang over Santana, Webb, and even Oswalt. He's got 44 wins because there's a 150 million dollar offense behind him. Put Wang on the Twins and he wouldn't have 15 wins.

Oh, BTW....how'd he fare in the playoffs?????

At least as fans, try to act intelligent.

I would EASILY take Wang over Santana and Oswalt. Santana makes a ton, and has never pitched for the Yankees and proven that he could handle the Bronx like Wang. Oswalt... He is an NL pitcher, and isn't even at the level of Wang.

How did he fare in the playoffs? Which year? The year where he had a 1.35 ERA, the year where he had a 4.05 ERA, or the year where he went through fingernail issues during the playoffs, and couldn't pitch his sinker effective?

[RickD]

This doesn't prove anything except that Wang gets better run support. Gee, i wonder why. He wouldn't happen to be on a team that routinely scores more runs than everybody else, would he?

He is 6-0 this year and if you look at the rest of the pitchers for the Yanks this year it means they (the hitters) are basically only supporting Wang if you go by that argument.

[koolzach1]

Add in the fact that Wang has had little to no run support thus far.

[RickD]

Well I know Hughes and Kennedy are looking for their run support but it all seems to be going to Wang.....Mussina and Andy P are getting a little support but not much! Cano and Giambi are supporting EVERYONE on the team right now.

No statistics are great to a point but as the saying on the bottom scroll read last year on BM they don't show everything. I know if I am looking at pitchers I would rather take one with more wins than one who is statistically better.

[koolzach1]

I agree, Rick. I will take a winning pitcher over a losing pitcher any day of the year.

[ohms_law]

Oh... my... god...

Is this really a discussion?

[koolzach1]

Oh... my... god...

Is this really a discussion?

I know, right? Wang is easily the best; No Discussion!... Glad you see it my way