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    Re: If steroids is cheating...........

    Quote Originally Posted by ohms_law View Post
    Yea, and I don't think there's really such a thing as "too much" technology. As long as it's safe (including side effects), I don't really see what the problem is.

    What about genetic engineering? If we could ensure that people are simply not genetically predisposed to diseases (and, we're close. closer than people generally think) what's wrong with that? Less cancers, less heart disease, things like that. Then, you move from there to enhancing the potential for strength, lung capacity, heart capacity, etc...
    Good point...i'd bet in a laboratory somewhere they are growing the worlds perfect athlete in a test tube.

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    It's not as though they don't still need to work for it... The potential is there, and the nutrition and medical technology is there to enhance what already exists, but the person still needs to work out and practice.
    You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann

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    Re: If steroids is cheating...........

    Quote Originally Posted by ohms_law View Post
    It's not as though they don't still need to work for it... The potential is there, and the nutrition and medical technology is there to enhance what already exists, but the person still needs to work out and practice.
    Thats like saying it's OK to give a Lamborghini to to a driver in a stock car Nascar race. Sure, the car has great potential but the driver still has to harness and handle the car.

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    If the Lamborghini is available to every driver, why not?
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    Re: If steroids is cheating...........

    Quote Originally Posted by ohms_law View Post
    If the Lamborghini is available to every driver, why not?
    So everyone should 'have' to get lasik or any other future surgery's which enhance productivity, or be genetically created (ie. own a lamborghini) just to have a chance to compete at the professional level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dickay View Post
    So everyone should 'have' to get lasik or any other future surgery's which enhance productivity, or be genetically created (ie. own a lamborghini) just to have a chance to compete at the professional level?
    Why not? Everyone already must work out (often to "extreme" levels), eat special diets, be under specialized medical supervision, etc... It's not as though athletes lead otherwise normal lives already. That and their already far from average people. Have you seen any pro athletes in person? Their almost always tall and just plain big people.
    You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann

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    Re: If steroids is cheating...........

    Here is a post about a writer's experience with Canseco. In the post is a good reason not to take steroids, kids.

    This link does contain some profanity, so don't click if you are offended, underage, or live in Iran, China, etc.

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    Re: If steroids is cheating...........

    Great article in this months ESPN the Magazine on this exact subject. Brings up some very interesting ethical questions about technology and athletes. Check it out.

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