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Thread: Is Big Hurt Hall-bound?

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    Re: Is Big Hurt Hall-bound?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Those people are idiots. I'm sorry, but anybody that does not think Babe Ruth or Hank Aaron is worthy of the Hall of Fame is just stupid and does not deserve to be voting on baseball's great honor.
    Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are .

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    Re: Is Big Hurt Hall-bound?

    Quote Originally Posted by boomboom View Post
    Steriods was a reason why there was soo many superstars in the 90's, now there are less, and the ones left are aging. Ken Griffey will go down as one of the most beloved players of this era. I still have his return to Seattle on my TIVO, and went to the first game back...wow is all I can say.
    So grif was a superstar in the 90's, and is one of those left aging. Does that mean you agree he may have juiced?

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    Re: Is Big Hurt Hall-bound?

    Quote Originally Posted by dickay View Post
    So grif was a superstar in the 90's, and is one of those left aging. Does that mean you agree he may have juiced?
    No, I mean that there are not as many superstars anymore as there was in the past, in the past each team had a superstar...

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    Re: Is Big Hurt Hall-bound?

    Quote Originally Posted by boomboom View Post
    Steriods was a reason why there was soo many superstars in the 90's, now there are less, and the ones left are aging..
    If steroids were so prevelant that they caused an "increase in superstars", wouldn't the use of steroids almost "cancel" each other out, considering both pitchers and hitters did steroids? Is there any actual work that shows there were "more superstars" in the 90's than in other times? There may seem like there were more, for a variety of reasons. First, the media is much more prevelant nowadays, making the stars more known. Secondly, offense was up, for reasons beyond simply steroids. An increase in offense causes superficially "better" numbers. "Better" numbers like more home runs leads to a perception that there are more superstars, when in reality, there's usually always a similar number of "superstars"...at least when using "superstars" to mean "the league's best players."

    No, I mean that there are not as many superstars anymore as there was in the past, in the past each team had a superstar...
    I'm going to take a minute and get back to this later, because I'm bored..

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    Re: Is Big Hurt Hall-bound?

    Quote Originally Posted by yankee hater View Post
    Superstar means a star (as in sports or the movies) who is considered extremely talented, has great public appeal, and can usually command a high salary. Source Merriam online dictionary
    Using that definition, obviously there's more superstars nowaday (and in the 90's) because media exposure is unreal and salaries have skyrocketed.

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    Re: Is Big Hurt Hall-bound?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Using that definition, obviously there's more superstars nowaday (and in the 90's) because media exposure is unreal and salaries have skyrocketed.
    Not to mention all the expansion that took place during the 90s.

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    Re: Is Big Hurt Hall-bound?

    Superstars:

    D'Backs - Brandon Webb
    Braves - Chipper Jones
    Orioles - Nick Markakis*
    Red Sox - Manny Ramirez
    White Sox - Jim Thome
    Cubs - Alfonso Soriano
    Reds - Ken Griffey*
    Indians - C.C. Sabathia
    Rockies - Matt Holliday
    Tigers - Miguel Cabrera
    Marlins - Hanley Ramirez
    Astros - Lance Berkman
    Royals - ...
    Angels - Vlad Guerrero
    Dodgers - Russell martin
    Brewers - Prince Fielder
    Twins - Joe Mauer
    Yankees - Alex Rodriguez
    Mets - Johan Santana
    Athletics - Huston Street/Frank Thomas*
    Phillies - Chase Utley
    Pirates - ...
    Padres - Jake Peavy
    Giants - Tim Lincecum
    Mariners - Ichiro Suzuki
    Cardinals - Albert Pujols
    Rays - Carl Crawford or B.J. Upton*
    Rangers - None
    Blue Jays - Roy Halladay
    Nationals - Ryan Zimmerman*

    There's a couple teams without any clear star/superstar, and some (marked with asterisks) that are extremely debatable. However, I'd imagine that that holds true over all of history - some teams just aren't good. There's easily over 30 superstars, when you account for multiple stars on the same team, which comes out to one per team on average, and I'd imagine that that also holds true throughout history.

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    Re: Is Big Hurt Hall-bound?

    Quote Originally Posted by dickay View Post
    Not to mention all the expansion that took place during the 90s.
    Yeah, that too. More players = more superstars.

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