I still have always liked Moose. I have been appreciative of his tenure. Just not a great big game pitcher.
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I still have always liked Moose. I have been appreciative of his tenure. Just not a great big game pitcher.
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He has a 3.42 ERA in 139.2 postseason innings. His career ERA is 3.70. He has a lower ERA in the postseason, pitching against the better teams in the league. I'd say he's a fine big game pitcher.Originally Posted by koolzach1
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Hmm... I didn't really realize that he was a good big game pitcher. He just hasn't been in the last few post season series; Of course, no one on the staff as been, with the exception of Wang (discounting last October, of course).
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And therein lies the reason not to rely on small sample sizes!
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It isn't the curse of the moose, it was the curse of Don Mattingly. The year after he retired they won the WS and the year he came back to coach the Yanks and every year since they've been favored and have not won. He never won during his tenure, is a career loser and the fact he's now out of NY scares me. Maybe, just maybe....if the Yanks do win it this year people will realize how big of a curse he was.
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you know, you could be onto something there. We'll just have to wait and see...
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psst he is not a true Yankee though
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Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are .
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Spoken like a Yankee elitist fan. What is a 'true yankee' if Mussina isn't? He's one of the few stand up guys in the game and has pitched well and consistent injury free for the most part for the better part of a decade!! Again, Yankee fans boo and slam Mussina and then cheer Giambi. Quite a joke! Whens the 'bring back Strawberry' movement going to start again? Or maybe we can give Steve Howe his umpteenth shot? Mussina is a class act who's laid it on the line consistently for nearly a decade in a yankee uni. I can think of few that are more deserving of the 'true yankee' title than Moose.
I am a true yankee hater, but there are some Yankee players even as a Red Sox fan you have to admit we've come to greatly respect. There's nobody in baseball, including on the Red Sox, that I respect and admire more than Mariano Rivera and yet Yankee fans actually boo this guy. Talk about consistency in big games, this guy personafies it. Jeter, whats there not to respect about a hard nosed everyday player who goes about his business professionally and wins. Bernie, same thing. Pettitte, HGH aside, hard to knock the guy. Mussina, same thing. Thats about it...but thats enough.
I'm not saying Mussina is not 'booable' but there are some (ie. Rivera & Jeter) who are not 'booable' under any circumstances. I'm not saying you can't boo Mussina....but to knock him like Yankee fans do and then say he's not a 'true' yankee...thats a cop out.
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I'm pretty sure Wassit was being sarcastic.
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He was, I believe.
Anyways... What about the Red Sox booing Keith Foulk so bad that he basically sucked and retired? Isn't that how it went?
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Well, usually it works where you suck first then get booed. Yes foulke did get booed and most certainly deserved it. As I said, I feel most players are 'booable' but a few elite are not and foulke was definately not in that category. Yes he pitched great in 04 and will always be remembered for making the last outs during the WS. Although the sox fan will boo Foulke, we quickly acknowledge his success during 04 and most of his Red Sox tenure, hold him in high regard which is the difference with the Foulke/Mussina comparisons. The Yankee fan, at least those in here and most I've spoken too, seems to significantly undervalue Mussina's contributions which is ashame.
I have always been surprised at Foulkes success as a closer because he does not and has never had closer stuff. A low 80's fastball is not what I want as a closer. He's shocked me thus far with his return to Oakland but lets see how much longer this can last. I am pulling for him to do well, and as a setup man/middle releiver I think he's in a better situation for success.
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got ya...I thought he was a yankee fan being serious lol. sorry bout that wassitI'm pretty sure Wassit was being sarcastic.
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Foulke shoulda NEVER been booed, IMO. Come on Sawx fans... The guy was a main key to bringing BOS their first championship in like 86 years!
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He was a significant part of the team....but it was one season. He got quite a pardon during a horrific 05 season and was just as bad during the 06 season. How much of a pass should that one season earn???? He'll always be welcomed, admired, and receive thanks and pats on the back from BoSox fans, but the booing was well deserved. Its not as if he's won multiple WS rings, a WS MVP, four closer of the year awards, has been the greatest closer in postseason history and possibly of alltime getting booed. That only happens in NY.
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