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    Injuries! Injuries! Injuries!

    There are already more than 100 players on the DL.

    A week and a half into the season, 100+ players on the DL. That's over 3 players per team, and it's not even mid-April!

    And people say Mogul has too high of an injury rate!

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    Re: Injuries! Injuries! Injuries!

    heh

    yea, that's what I was thinking earlier today too...
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    Re: Injuries! Injuries! Injuries!

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    There are already more than 100 players on the DL.

    A week and a half into the season, 100+ players on the DL. That's over 3 players per team, and it's not even mid-April!
    What? That's completely unrealistic!

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    LOL I like how real life is imitating BM!

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    But - to be fair (ignoring all previous arguments of total players in the organization as a ratio to those on the DL, which is still a valid issue), these players are starting the season on the DL. They had injuries during spring training, or are doing extended minor league rehab, or getting themselves game-ready. Their 'DL' status might as well have started in February.

    If you try to emulate these numbers only, with injuries starting (sometimes) during spring training and occuring predominantly during the regular season, then it won't quite playout realistically; I don't know about you, but I've never started a season with guys on the DL in BBM. They always get injured a week, a month, two months in. The overall numbers may end up being the same, but the severity is more because of the timing being right mid-season, and not pre-season. Just a thought from the other side.

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    Re: Injuries! Injuries! Injuries!

    Of course then you have the Yankees who have lost Jeter and Posada and NOT put them on DL yet.

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    Yay!! No sneer for the camera guys to zoom up on for 1/10th of the plays this weekend. Woohoo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alloutwar View Post
    If you try to emulate these numbers only, with injuries starting (sometimes) during spring training and occuring predominantly during the regular season, then it won't quite playout realistically; I don't know about you, but I've never started a season with guys on the DL in BBM. They always get injured a week, a month, two months in. The overall numbers may end up being the same, but the severity is more because of the timing being right mid-season, and not pre-season. Just a thought from the other side.
    Players do get injured during spring training in Mogul, and some do start the season on the DL. The issue with Mogul always was that the injuries were unevenly spread out due to medical expenses, so some teams got hit extremely hard while others never got injuries. That's been corrected and made adjustable, though.

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    Hmm...maybe it's a relic from BM07 that changed somewhere down the line? Ok, if the frequency is realistic and spread out similar to real life, including spring training injuries and such (now), then you can disregard. I'll eventually get geared up enough to buy a new version...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alloutwar View Post
    Hmm...maybe it's a relic from BM07 that changed somewhere down the line? Ok, if the frequency is realistic and spread out similar to real life, including spring training injuries and such (now), then you can disregard. I'll eventually get geared up enough to buy a new version...
    I don't recall if spring training injuries were in BM07. I actually think they were added in one of the 2k8 patches.

    The spread of injuries was due to the medical expenses having a large effect on the injuries to teams. In real life, there isn't THAT Much difference between teams and their injury rates, and the differences are largely due simply to the luck of the draw rather than failures in the medical staff. With the addition of the Medical Expenses Effect slider, and the adjustment of how much the medical staff affects the injuries, I do believe the injury spread is more realistic.

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    Realistic!?

    1.5 weeks into the season, 100 people on the DL?

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    Re: Injuries! Injuries! Injuries!

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    There are already more than 100 players on the DL.
    Don't remind me. I have six injured pitchers on my fantasy team.

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    In early June 1985, the Cubs were still in first place, battling the St. Louis Cardinals and the New York Mets for the division. However, Rick Sutcliffe, Steve Trout, Scott Sanderson and Dennis Eckersley (their top 4 starters) all were injured, and the Cubs went on a 13-game losing streak that effectively eliminated them from contention.

    Code:
     I Split          G   W   L   S   CG SHO   IP     ERA    H    R   ER   HR  BB  IBB  SO  HBP
    +-+------------+----+---+---+---+---+---+------+------+----+----+----+---+----+---+----+---+
       1st Half      214  45  41  22  16   6  769     3.41  725  328  291  60  251  42  471  14 
       2nd Half      261  32  43  20   4   0  673.1   5.04  767  401  377  96  268  41  349   9 
       1st Half,GS    86  33  32   0  16   6  570.2   3.23  514  231  205  44  157  16  320   8 
       2nd Half,GS    76  16  29   0   4   0  400     5.11  484  242  227  62  141  15  194   3
    Code:
     I Split          PA    AB    R    H   2B  3B  HR  BB  IBB  SO  HBP  SH  SF ROE GDP  SB   CS  Pk   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS  BAbip sOPS+ tOPS+ Split
    +-+------------+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+---+---+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+------------+
       1st Half      3229  2899  328  725 131  27  60  251  42  471  14  42  23  52  68   64  36  10  .250  .311  .376  .687  .278    96    83 1st Half     
       2nd Half      2966  2614  401  767 133  20  96  268  41  349   9  53  22  35  57   73  47   9  .293  .358  .470  .828  .306   126   119 2nd Half     
       1st Half,GS   2341  2127  231  514  94  17  44  157  16  320   8  30  19  36  43   43  30  10  .242  .294  .364  .658  .264    87    75 1st Half,GS  
       2nd Half,GS   1765  1581  242  484  82  13  62  141  15  194   3  30  10  22  37   43  32   9  .306  .362  .492  .854  .316   131   126 2nd Half,GS
    from http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi...=CHC&year=1985

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    Re: Injuries! Injuries! Injuries!

    Of course that could be because they are the Cubs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoulMan View Post
    Don't remind me. I have six injured pitchers on my fantasy team.
    That's rough. I have John Lackey, Yovani Gallardo, and Scott Kazmir all on the DL in one of my leagues.

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