Baseball's All-Time Greatest Teams

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1975 Cincinnati Reds

[metsguy234]

Luckily, the team you name in your onscreen alias has never been connected with unsavory character...oh...never mind.

Seriously, don't you have to be a rather large hypocrite to be railing against the Yankees for having 'bad guys' and 'buying player's when you're a METS fan?! Last I checked, the Mets have had more than their share of absolute asswipes wear their uniform (as MOST organizations have), and they weren't exactly scrimping when it comes to payroll...

Dwight Gooden and Darryl Strawberry (drugs) and Vince Coleman and the other Mets who threw a lit firecracker at a bunch of kids are the only bad people to play for the Mets so far.

I can name at least 10 overrated jerks that have played for the Yankees:

1. Babe Ruth (fat alcoholic)
2. Billy Martin (violent alcoholic)
3. Derek Jeter (Acts like he's better than everyone)
4. Gay-Rod (Money-hungry player who also acts like he's better than everyone-plays to hurt people)
5. Reggie Jackson (violent player who acted like he was better than everyone)
6. Mickey Mantle (violent alcoholic)
7. Joe Dimaggio (violent alcoholic, left his son to rot while he enjoyed all the money he earned from baseball)
8. Steve Howe (Do we need an explanation here?)
9. Roger Clemens (violent roider)
10. David Wells (violent alcoholic)
11. Lou Gehrig (not a jerk- but very overrated- why does getting sick and dying make him a hero?)
12. Darryl Strawberry
13. Dwight Gooden
(If I'm including them with the mets, I'm including them with the Yankees)
14. Jim Leyritz (Drunk driver/murderer)
15.George Steinbrenner (does he count? I hate his guts)
16. Hank Steinbrenner (does he count? I hate his guts as well)
17. Roger Maris (alcoholic)
18. Andy Pettite (roider)
19. Jason Giambi (roider)
20.David Justice (roider)
21. Chuck Knoblauch (roider)
22. Jason Grimsley (played for the Yanks- didn't he)
23. Ron Villone (roider)
24. Kevin Brown (roiding idiot who punched a clubhouse wall and broke his hand )
25. Gary Sheffield (roider-BALCO)
26. Hal Steinbrenner (his last name is Steinbrenner, he must be a jerk)
27. Mike Stanton (roider-played for Yanks 5 YEARS, played for Mets 2 years)
28. Kenny Rogers (shoved a cameraman)


That's all I can think of for now...

[HoustonGM]

Dwight Gooden and Darryl Strawberry (drugs) and Vince Coleman and the other Mets who threw a lit firecracker at a bunch of kids are the only bad people to play for the Mets so far.

Yeah. I'm sure. The only bad people EVER.

[metsguy234]

Yeah. I'm sure. The only bad people EVER.

Well name me some other bad Mets then...

I named you 19 bad Yankees. You can't name any bad Mets beyond the 4 or so I gave you.

[HoustonGM]

Well, using your definition of a "bad person":

Dwight Gooden (drugs, drugs, and more drugs)
Daryl Strawberry (drugs, drugs, and more drugs)
Vince Coleman (throwing firecrackers)
Keith Hernandez (cokehead)
John Milner (amphetamine user)
Todd Hundley (dirty steroid user)
Matt Franco (roider)
Mike Stanton (roider)
Scott Schoeneweis (roider)
Paul LoDuca (fan favorite roider)
Kurt Radomski (clubhouse guy, huge roid dealer)
Mo Vaughn (roider)
Todd Pratt (roider)
Lenny Dykstra (roider)
Guillermo Mota (roider that the Mets rewarded with a 2-year deal after he failed a drug test)
Fred Wilpon (hey, I hate his guts)
Carlos Beltran (money hungry player)
David Wright (thinks he's better than everyone)
Jose Reyes (thinks he's better than everyone)

[ohms_law]

lol

[rogue9]

I don't know why anyone bothers arguing with HGM. I have yet to see him lose an argument.

[RedsoxRockies]

Hey Houston, you left out Paul Lo Duca(not with them still, but did use steriods, even if it was before the Mets.) And Metsguy, you left out a reason to hate Gay-Rod, and that is he plays to hurt people and is money hungry

[HoustonGM]

I don't know why anyone bothers arguing with HGM. I have yet to see him lose an argument.

That's not true.

I just don't lose arguments when one side bases their argument on emotion and I use actual logic. But when I've debated someone that also uses logic, I've lost before.

Hey Houston, you left out Paul Lo Duca(not with them still, but did use steriods, even if it was before the Mets.)

You're right. Added him.

[metsguy234]

Well, using your definition of a "bad person":

Dwight Gooden (drugs, drugs, and more drugs)
Daryl Strawberry (drugs, drugs, and more drugs)
Vince Coleman (throwing firecrackers)
Keith Hernandez (cokehead)
John Milner (amphetamine user)
Todd Hundley (dirty steroid user)
Matt Franco (roider)
Mike Stanton (roider)
Scott Schoeneweis (roider)
Paul LoDuca (fan favorite roider)
Kurt Radomski (clubhouse guy, huge roid dealer)
Mo Vaughn (roider)
Todd Pratt (roider)
Lenny Dykstra (roider)
Guillermo Mota (roider that the Mets rewarded with a 2-year deal after he failed a drug test)
Fred Wilpon (hey, I hate his guts)
Carlos Beltran (money hungry player)
David Wright (thinks he's better than everyone)
Jose Reyes (thinks he's better than everyone)

Wright and Reyes are nice people.From interviews that they give it's quite clear that they aren't full of themselves, as you are suggesting.

[koolzach1]

Oh yes, but every friggin' Yankee player is a jerk. Though, the Mets and Yankees both play in New York, only the Yankees are arrogant punks.

[HoustonGM]

[/B]Wright and Reyes are nice people.From interviews that they give it's quite clear that they aren't full of themselves, as you are suggesting.

I've never seen an interview with A-Rod or Jeter that makes it seem like they're full of themselves, as you seem to suggest. Based on your list, it seems that you just assume that if a player wins a championship, he's full of himself.

I happen to think that Reyes and Wright are fine people, but if we're basing our lists just off gut feelings and personal hatred of a team, then Wright and Reyes are arrogant screw ups.

(Not that I hate the Mets. I'm just speaking from a "hate everything Met" point of view, as you are speaking from a "hate everything Yankee" point of view)

[Wassit3]

I've never seen an interview with A-Rod or Jeter that makes it seem like they're full of themselves, as you seem to suggest. Based on your list, it seems that you just assume that if a player wins a championship, he's full of himself.

I happen to think that Reyes and Wright are fine people, but if we're basing our lists just off gut feelings and personal hatred of a team, then Wright and Reyes are arrogant screw ups.

(Not that I hate the Mets. I'm just speaking from a "hate everything Met" point of view, as you are speaking from a "hate everything Yankee" point of view)

fighting ill-logical reasoning with ill-logical reasoning never works....

now back to the subject at hand I think the 1927 yankees are the greatest becaue even if you remove their best player, ruth they still would win the championship

[RedsoxRockies]

You know what, I am tired of all this New York talk, so I guess I am going to start talking from a "hate everything Chicago view".
1. Ozzie Guillen: Violent, Insolent, over agressive manager
2. A.J Perzynski: Violent player who can lead to fights
3.Michael Barret: Very violent, would strangle #2 and #4 if he could/
4. Carlos Zambrano: Overrated over emotional violent player
5. Juan Uribe: May have played a role in a shooting
6. the "Black Sox". This is self explanitory.
and leads to #7 Shoeless Joe, #8 arnold Gandil, #9 Eddie Cicotte, #10 Claude Williams, Oscar Felsch, #11 Fred Mcmullin.
12 Fergeson Jenkins Drug addict
13: Ironic how Mark Prior, Mr. Injury is #13
14 His partner in crime Kerry Wood

[HoustonGM]

The point is - every team has had bad people, violent people, drug users, etc. throughout their history.