I still can't grasp this

[beerchaser]

"Palpable mass on his buttocks"

ok, I admit I have been paying no attention to these hearings whatsoever, but after seeing some of these phrases thrown around (which fall into the category of too much information, btw), it seems perfectly logical to me to have Congress involved. They are after all an excellent authority on being a boil on the butt of Americans.

[Reade]

I loved to see Fraudger sit there and tell America that everyone else is lying and Pettite misheard what Fraudger said.

And Mr Burton-rep from Indiana before you go on National TV and blast someone maybe you should take a minute and think about your past. And Mr Shays-rep from CT you sat there and said Clemens is innocent until proven guilty in a court room, but you call someone a lair and a drugdealer but Mcnamee hasn't been found guilty in a court of law yet.

The most vocal grandstander was Rep. Dan Burton of rural Indiana, who absolutely skewered McNamee.

"This is really disgusting," Burton said. "I don't know what to believe. I know what I don't believe and that's you."

Strong words from a guy who while cheating on his wife knocked up his girlfriend and went years without visiting his son (though he was kind enough to cut him some checks).

Kinda of makes you wonder why this guy is making a moral judgement against someone else character. Here's the whole article from yahoohttp://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

[Reade]

Is misremembered a word?

[Rongar]

Is misremembered a word?

If politicians can say that they "mis-spoke", then ballplayers are entitled to say that they "misremember"

Come to think of it, that playing-field's not even level, anyway...perhaps the only gift that most politicians have, is that of the gab, and here they all are, ranged against a man whose career has been based upon effective action, rather than empty words.

No matter what Clemens may, or may not have done, I have far more respect for him, than I do for most of his interrogators
at this hearing.

[HoustonGM]

According to the dictionary, as well.

[CatKnight]

ok, I admit I have been paying no attention to these hearings whatsoever, but after seeing some of these phrases thrown around (which fall into the category of too much information, btw), it seems perfectly logical to me to have Congress involved. They are after all an excellent authority on being a boil on the butt of Americans.

That's a very good point. Congress is quite experienced at all the sordid details of life.

I think we're best off reverting to trial by combat. Get everyone together - Clemens, McNamee, Selig, Fehr, and anyone who wants to use this in their campaigns (Burton, Shays, etc.) Give them all wiffle bats. Close the door.

Then they can sell tickets on Pay per View! I'd buy!

[HoustonGM]

So would I.

That'd be better TV than old men talking about butt masses.

[WHAK0985]

The children are certainly better off.

By the way, Rep. Dan Burton, I loved his line, "Gee whiz, are you kidding me? My goodness."

And He does not look like he wants to be there. His hand has been on his cheek the entire time.

Actually you have to think about the political context of this hearing, and any other hearing for that matter. The Democrats are the majority party and Henry Waxman the chair of the committee is a Democrat. Burton and the rest of the Republicans are doing what they do best, partisan politics. It's their so called "responsibility" as a Republican and minority party member to dissent to the Majority Party and Chair about their investigation.

So yes, he definitely did not want to be there. I also think that this is the source of the perceived Republican slant against McNamee and the support for Roger Clemens.

[Reade]

Here's a interesting read

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3244344

[Rongar]

Yeah, a cheating jerk who throws a bat shard at people derserves respect, gobs of it.

A man who has yet to be proven a jerk and/or cheat, YH...and
" Let he who is without stress amongst you, cast the first shard..."

[Rongar]

According to the dictionary, as well.

"Ah...the language has gotten all misbegotten..."

William Shakespeare.

(from "As You Mislike It")

[HoustonGM]

I think he's been proven to be a jerk. And an idiot.

But not a cheat.

[mnstonecold]

this is the reason why i don't watch the news or any major network anymore[was because of the strike but more because of the politics] it is because everyone everywhere is talking about the same ****** thing! I hate watching CBS when they preempt NCIS with election coverage. If you want to know how the political system works watch Team America World police, and you'll have your answer.

[HoustonGM]

Pitching better at 38 then he did at 28 is proof for me. Sabrematricans even agree that his dual peak defies stastistical norms.

Hank Aaron had a career high 47 home runs when he was 37. Also a career high OPS+ of 194. Cheater.

Randy Johnson was no better than an average pitcher, who walked 100+ guys a year until he was 29. His best seasons ame in his late 30s'. I guess he found a way to cheat that improves his control.

Nolan Ryan had the second-highest ERA+ of his career at age 40. His highest came in 1981 - a year shortened by strike. Cheater.

Cy Young's best years came at age 34 and age 41. Cheater.


I don't know what sabermetricians you're talking about specifically, but not all agree. See this article.

Naturally, I have my own opinion about whether Clemens used so-called performance enhancers, and I don’t think he did himself any favors in his Congressional testimony yesterday. But where his statistical record is concerned, there is no smoking gun.

Oh and for what it's worth, Roger Clemensat age 28 had a better year than he did at age 38. And he also doesn't really have a "dual peak." Except for a few years - 1993, 1995, arguably 1996, 1999, 2002, and 2003 - he was consistently outstanding with a few off-the-charts years thrown in (1990, 1997, 2005). For an all-time great pitcher, that's nothing out of the ordinary.

[shepster]

If Nolan would put his Cheeting art to Texas that ok here