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    Report: Pats employee filmed Rams

    A new spying charge has nicked the New England Patriots.

    A member of the Patriots' video staff taped the St. Louis Rams' last walkthrough before they played in the 2002 Super Bowl, an unidentified source told the Boston Herald for a story Saturday.

    New England beat the heavily favored Rams the next day 20-17 for their first NFL title. The unbeaten Patriots will try to win their fourth Super Bowl in seven seasons Sunday when they play the New York Giants.

    Early this season, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell fined New England coach Bill Belichick $500,000 and docked the team $250,000 and a first-round draft pick after the Spygate scandal. The Patriots were accused of videotaping New York Jets defensive coaches as they signaled to players.

    The Herald cited a source close to the Patriots in the 2001 season as saying the team held a walkthrough at the Superdome in New Orleans before the game on Feb. 3, 2002. After the Patriots took a team picture, a member of their video department stayed inside the stadium and taped the Rams' session.

    It was not known whether the cameraman was told by the Patriots to film the practice or what he did with the tape, the Herald said. The Rams were two-touchdown favorites, but lost on Adam Vinatieri's last-second field goal.

    Told of the newest allegation, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said: "We have no knowledge of it."

    Rams spokesman Rick Smith, reading a statement from team president John Shaw, said, "At this point, we have no comment."

    An e-mail and telephone message sent by The Associated Press to Patriots spokesman Stacey James was not immediately returned. However, the Herald quoted him as saying: "The coaches have no knowledge of it."

    New England did not have a walkthrough Saturday. The Giants held one at the Arizona Cardinals' practice facility.

    A walkthrough is done without pads or helmets, giving teams a chance to practice their formations.

    Goodell spent much of his state of the game address Friday talking about that episode. He said he did not think the Patriots used such tapes to win previous titles.

    "There was no indication that it benefited them in any of the Super Bowl victories," he said.

    Asked specifically whether the NFL's investigation of Spygate looked into any allegations involving the 2002 Super Bowl, he said: "I'm not aware of that."

    Goodell also defended his decision to destroy notes and videotapes linked to the Spygate, saying "there was no purpose for them."

    Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., who sent Goodell a letter asking for explanation, said Goodell's response "didn't make any sense at all."

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7749384?MSNHPHMA
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    Re: Report: Pats employee filmed Rams

    and this comes out a day before the Super Bowl? Smells as fishy as low tide. Total crapola

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    Quote Originally Posted by cartman00000001 View Post
    and this comes out a day before the Super Bowl? Smells as fishy as low tide. Total crapola
    makes you wonder doesn't it...
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    sure does. People have their axes to grind, and they use the publicity of the Super Bowl to get some ink. It's actually quite pathertic if you think about it.

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    Re: Report: Pats employee filmed Rams

    so, you think they did it once, but never did it before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue9 View Post
    so, you think they did it once, but never did it before?
    Are you serious? Do we really have to go into the whole "other teams do it" thing? Hopefully not.

    Here is what the Patriots are guilty of. They are guilty of filming on the sideline. The PLACEMENT of the camera, not the actual filming. If they did this from the press box or anything with a roof over it, it's legal.

    God, can we FINALLY get over this now? It's sickening.

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    Re: Report: Pats employee filmed Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by cartman00000001 View Post
    Are you serious? Do we really have to go into the whole "other teams do it" thing? Hopefully not.

    Here is what the Patriots are guilty of. They are guilty of filming on the sideline. The PLACEMENT of the camera, not the actual filming. If they did this from the press box or anything with a roof over it, it's legal.

    God, can we FINALLY get over this now? It's sickening.
    is there anything they couldn't get from filming from every angle elsewhere besides the sideline that they got from filming on the side lines? I doubt it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wassit3 View Post
    is there anything they couldn't get from filming from every angle elsewhere besides the sideline that they got from filming on the side lines? I doubt it
    good question, actually. I don't know the answer because I don't know how the stadium is and where the opposing team's sideline is. It could be the case where they cannot get the proper angle from the roofbox, but of course, that's just a guess.

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    Re: Report: Pats employee filmed Rams

    I said nothing of other teams. I am saying that I find it unlikely that they cheated only once. Which makes their "dynasty" a farce imo.

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    well, I am. If their "dynasty" is a farce, prepare to dethrone the 80's 49'ers (salary cap anyone?) the 70's Steelers, even the 1963 playoff game between the Chargers and Patriots. The Chargers had a spy watching the practices. If you think your favorite team is holier than thou, sorry to say you are wrong.
    I think I'm done here. There is no way I'm swaying anyone in their opinion.

    If you would excuse me, I've got a Superbowl to watch. If things go well, I've got a win and a perfect season to enjoy. Win or lose, I'll still enjoy it.

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    Re: Report: Pats employee filmed Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by cartman00000001 View Post
    well, I am. If their "dynasty" is a farce, prepare to dethrone the 80's 49'ers (salary cap anyone?) the 70's Steelers, even the 1963 playoff game between the Chargers and Patriots. The Chargers had a spy watching the practices. If you think your favorite team is holier than thou, sorry to say you are wrong.
    I think I'm done here. There is no way I'm swaying anyone in their opinion.

    If you would excuse me, I've got a Superbowl to watch. If things go well, I've got a win and a perfect season to enjoy. Win or lose, I'll still enjoy it.
    07-08 Patriots = Cheaters

    They got caught cheating, no different than Barry Bonds..well, actually Bonds wasn't really caught lmao.

    You gotta accept it...there's always going to be an asterick.

    And the whole, they could tape from a press box with a roof over it argument is bogus. I've never heard such a claim. Show me where thats acceptable. Sounds like a patsy coverup excuse. If they can tape from the press box, i'm sure there are many stipulations, ie. it must be of the field and not the sidelines/coaches, probably limits on zoom ability...etc...etc.

    I find it more likely the NFL tapes the games and gives the teams the same copies of game film, though I really don't know.

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    I don't follow football, but suffice it to say, the Patriots continued winning after they were caught taping. I think it's absolutely foolish to deny how great of a team the Patriots are just because they were video taping some games. To deny the talent that is assembled on that team is the true farce here.

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    Re: Report: Pats employee filmed Rams

    Didn't deny the talent either. Niether did I say my team was "holier than thou".

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    Re: Report: Pats employee filmed Rams

    It really doesn't matter anymore, The giants won.

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