Oh, I could make far worse arguments against Raines if I were so inclined. For example:
"Raines shouldn't be elected to the Hall because he was born in Vermont".
Which would be both totally illogical and factually incorrect (he was born in Florida).
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Oh, I could make far worse arguments against Raines if I were so inclined. For example:
"Raines shouldn't be elected to the Hall because he was born in Vermont".
Which would be both totally illogical and factually incorrect (he was born in Florida).
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i think it's because he has small handsOriginally Posted by dps
Oh, I could make far worse arguments against Raines if I were so inclined. For example:
"Raines shouldn't be elected to the Hall because he was born in Vermont".
Which would be both totally illogical and factually incorrect (he was born in Florida).
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Heh, well, yes, I know, there are obviously worse arguments if you just want to make things up or hold completely irrelevent things like birthplace against him, lol. But, of all the statistical arguments you could make....a man that ran 900+ times didn't run enough?
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One of the comments on this guys article is pretty rational:
Let me get this straight: Tim Raines is getting penalized for being the best ever at picking his spots for stolen bases? No player in MLB history ever used the stolen base more effectively, as no player added more runs to his teams' totals by stealing bases. And yes, this includes Rickey, too.
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forrest gump ran more sir!??!
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stop clouding the issue with facts and and logic! THose things have no place in HOF voting!
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yankeehater/slowrx7/watery, do you have a love affair with HGM? seriously you seem to want to argue a different point against him on every thing he post? It gets old after a while
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fascinating. and not cool .
but
the reality is,
if one is going to routinely blog on and invite debate and then generally nullify
the other persons points while insisting upon converting them to ones own perspective as a matter of course, regardless of the topic,
this is to be expected.
<< Raines seemed at times too concerned about preserving his stolen-base percentage. >>
hgm did extract his own personal meaning from this.
the way i read it, the writer watched raines play, and
felt there were times that raines could have been more aggressive in situations that would have helped the team but didnt run specifically because in the writers opinion, he seemed (<<-- keyword) to be too concerned about the sb%.
this is not unlike high average banjo hitters who get accused of being selfish and being more concerned about their 340 ba then driving in a run.
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apology acceptedI forgot.
Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are .
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I never insisted upon converting anyone to my own perspective. I simply post my thoughts, and NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE, this guy debates me. As I said in the other thread, if you genuinely disagree with me and wish to debate, I welcome that, and I have no problem against you. But when someone AGREES with me and STILL has to argue with me, that gets incredibly annoying. Debate is healthy. Differing viewpoints are good. Arguing for the sake of arguing is petty and childish.
The point is that no matter what I post, he'll find something to argue with me over.
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But I've never heard of holding back a HOF vote for someone that did that. Like Ty Cobb. or Nap Lajoie.
There's really only one way to take the whole statement that this guy said. Tim Raines was hurt, in his eyes, for not running more.
And for a guy that ran over 900 times, I think that's a tad bit ridiculous.
Also, I've heard many stories about Rickey Henderson being more concerned with his stolen base total than with making the smarter play. I heard one story about Henderson hitting a gapper that was a surefire triple, only to stop at second and attempt to steal third, and promptly get thrown out. I don't know if this true, but there's been many times I've heard about Henderson being selfish when it comes to his stolen base totals. So, if you're going to downgrade one guy for being selfish when it comes to his stolen base percentage, shouldn't you also downgrade the guy that's selfish when it comes to stolen base totals? Preserving your stolen base percentage is more advantageous to the team than always going for stolen bases.
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how about this arguement, isn't part of being in thehall of fame is being FAMOUS? Henderson was a more reconizablle name in his generation...
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