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    Re: Bud Selig should resign

    Quote Originally Posted by robinhoodnik View Post
    Because what he claimed to be using, was an over the counter sort of item, which at the time was available at any GNC.
    But, still, why is their outrage now about him doing something which was legal and not against the rules? That's the hypocrisy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robinhoodnik View Post
    I think baseball's come to a place in it's history where it needs another Kennesaw Landis type of figure. It needs to be cleaned up beyond a shadow of a doubt. I haven't talked to anyone who believes that those 86 players are all that were found by that commission.
    The problem is that they are "old news" as Mitchell & Co.,had no real power - heck look at the scenario -

    1) you admit to something to Mitchell you could conceivably get the Feds to indite you - thus you AVOID the committee
    2) you have already been indited (a la Radomski) so basically you repeat what you said to the Feds (but don't add any new info or you will be indited again)


    Either way,Mitchell just got the "iceberg" of the problem & 80% of the names were already known one way or another from testimonies or leaks from Grimsley/BALCO/Radomski & the 2 Pharmacy/Anti Age clinics or by just reading Canseco (who btw is looking like a "soothsayer"! )

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    Re: Bud Selig should resign

    Quote Originally Posted by robinhoodnik View Post
    I think baseball's come to a place in it's history where it needs another Kennesaw Landis type of figure.
    It's not like they were betting on the game or anything. I'd say do whatever testing they can do in the future, and forget about what happened in the past.
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    I mean that MLB needs a no nonsense person who isn't going to take it easy on anybody solely because they have star status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRENCHREDSOX View Post
    The problem is that they are "old news" as Mitchell & Co.,had no real power - heck look at the scenario
    Exactly, who did they get really? a bunch of retirees, roster fillers, and guys on the back nine of their careers. After 20 months and millions of dollars, that's the best that they can do? Also, no prominent Red Sox on that list? Just Mo, but when he was a Met? Yet Mitchell bags ten guys from the Yankees 2000 roster, and 8 from the 2000 Dodgers? It stinks, and I don't buy that they released everything. I think guys are being protected, and it's wrong.
    If they're going to toss these 86 guys under the bus, then they should toss everyone under the bus, or shut the F up and keep it in house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robinhoodnik View Post
    Exactly, who did they get really? a bunch of retirees, roster fillers, and guys on the back nine of their careers. After 20 months and millions of dollars, that's the best that they can do? Also, no prominent Red Sox on that list? Just Mo, but when he was a Met? Yet Mitchell bags ten guys from the Yankees 2000 roster, and 8 from the 2000 Dodgers? It stinks, and I don't buy that they released everything. I think guys are being protected, and it's wrong.
    If they're going to toss these 86 guys under the bus, then they should toss everyone under the bus, or shut the F up and keep it in house.
    This,again IMO,is a "show stopper" - a nice,razzle-dazzle approach to say Selig & his buds are "trying".The reality is economics (as I said above) a "dirty" 40 HR guy will demand 5X what he would have got if he was a clean 20 HR - it is as simple as that.

    Also,let us be honest,the Mitchell report really portrays the Unions as the next coming of the Anti-Christ......

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    Well, did MLB really care? As I recall, wasn't the only reason for this farce was Congress making noise about revoking baseball's anti-trust exemption?
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    Quote Originally Posted by robinhoodnik View Post
    I mean that MLB needs a no nonsense person who isn't going to take it easy on anybody solely because they have star status.
    Agreed. Selig isn't that person (It's okay to let the all-star game end in a tie -ugh)

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    Re: Bud Selig should resign

    I still think the worse decision was the stupid way he made the all Star game 'matter'. It's an exhibition, for chrissakes!

    Selig is awful. If it weren't for Gary Bettman's utter incompetence in running the NHL, Selig would be a slam dunk for worst commissioner, by about a country mile.

    So, the next question is...is there anyone out there who you could foresee replacing him, someone who might actually have a set?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkcostas View Post
    Well, did MLB really care? As I recall, wasn't the only reason for this farce was Congress making noise about revoking baseball's anti-trust exemption?
    Yep!

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    Re: Bud Selig should resign

    reading Canseco (who btw is looking like a "soothsayer"! )
    He might be the only one telling the truth.

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    Re: Bud Selig should resign

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    He might be the only one telling the truth.
    If so, you can be assured the he has only HIS best interests at heart (i.e. money) for doing so, not the best interests of the game.

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    Re: Bud Selig should resign

    If so, you can be assured the he has only HIS best interests at heart (i.e. money) for doing so, not the best interests of the game.
    Maybe he needs the money since baseball blackballed him, Mlb took away any chance of him making money like other retired players do, and for what possibly telling the truth. And that possibility just keeps getting bigger. I really don't care if he's doing it for the money or ego if he's telling the truth more power to him.

    PS The best interest of the game got us Selig naming a baseball insider to investigate themselves. How about we let Bush appoint a committee to see if he should be impeached!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reade View Post
    Maybe he needs the money since baseball blackballed him, Mlb took away any chance of him making money like other retired players do, and for what possibly telling the truth. And that possibility just keeps getting bigger. I really don't care if he's doing it for the money or ego if he's telling the truth more power to him.

    PS The best interest of the game got us Selig naming a baseball insider to investigate themselves. How about we let Bush appoint a committee to see if he should be impeached!
    Canseco is a selfish,egotistical & greedy person BUT that is also because of the MLB! He never,ever disclaimed his usage of steroids & STILL today openly uses (& advocates) them.When his book came out there was contreversy & multiple denials,yet 80/90% of the players & people named in the book have been "outed" in the Mitchell report.

    He is,unfortunately for Baseball in general,been the most honest person concerning steroids & its usage (with Ken Carminiti) yet even today is oestrecised for his actions & demeanor.

    If anything he should be hired by MLB to serve on a "steroids" committee to explain what they do,or not,& who,how & where they are in the game today.(Just an opinion)

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    That's actually not a half bad idea. for me personally, my problems with Canseco have nothing to do with him, in a lot of ways, blowing the lid of the amount of steroid usage in baseball. It has to do with his utter self obsession, and need to promote himself at every possible turn. I find that gets very old, very fast.

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