You do that.Originally Posted by HoustonGM
You do that.
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http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showthr...997#post844997
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One thing that was brought up that I found interesting was Mitchell's statement during the presser that they had uncovered numerous examples of players being warned beforehand of their impending 'random' drug test. I mean, it's something that has long been suspected of happening in every sport for a long time, but finally there appears to be some proof of it occurring.
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Robin, you said that Donnelly got caught using steroids. At the time, I searched, and found no mention of him being caught, which is why I said that I found no such evidence, and asked you if you could provide me with any. And, you said that you couldn't find any, and don't know where you got the impression that he got caught.
I don't see how I had an "allergic reaction." I just said that I found no evidence to your claim, and, you couldn't provide any either. It is certainly interesting though that you had somewhere heard this, and despite not remembering where, it turns out to likely be true.
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None of that matters. All we know about McGwire was that he had andro in his locker. That's it. Saying that he used it as a masking agent, or that he had associated with a steroid dealer and then further saying that because of that he did steroids...it's all assumptions. And I'm sorry, but I don't believe in punishing people based on assumptions.
That's a joke right ?? You also conveniantly forget the "biggie" ---- his answers or should I say non-answers,under oath,to the congressional hearing !None of that matters. All we know about McGwire was that he had andro in his locker. That's it. Saying that he used it as a masking agent, or that he had associated with a steroid dealer and then further saying that because of that he did steroids...it's all assumptions. And I'm sorry, but I don't believe in punishing people based on assumptions.
LOL,under the circumstances,of how MLB drug testing is done (or to be precise not done) his actual association with dealers,users,his usage of a STEROID (as andro is one),testimony (although not under oath) by various sources means these are not assumptions but facts.Just because he has not been indited (but how many actual known users have ?) does not mean he did not use other steroids.....
Again remember,Andro is a steroid,a legal steroid at the time but still a steroid & post dated banned by the FDA & MLB.Just because X or Y is not listed at the time (ie 1990 ACT) does not mean it is not a banned substance--- TGH,EPO or HGH in 1990 were non listed & have been banned since because either 1) they were non commercially existant or 2) actually were non traceable or even known about - heck "cream" & "clear" were invented after 1990 & still aren't "officially" steroids as they have never been sold on the market or even been prescribed by M.D's.
Re-Read the link,first line:
Ipso facto,McGwire did steroids!Androstenedione (also known as 4-androstenedione) is a 19-carbon steroid hormone
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I don't see how I had an "allergic reaction."Maybe it's that little "I'm not accusing you of lying, but...." bit?I'm not accusing you of lying, but can you show me where he was caught using 'roids?
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I hope that the three of you realize that you're driving people away (at least from participating) with this garbage.
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What are you talking about?
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Re: Mitchell report due today
An unpleasantly personal tone seems to be seeping into the debate.
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We all are born to make or mar.
To each is gi'en a bag of tools
Some mentors, and a set of rules:
And each must carve, ere life has flown,
A stumbling block, or a stepping-stone"
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Well we are talking about steroids in baseball and that always seems to go this route.
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I regard steroid-taking as akin to Popeye knocking off a can of spinach, ere he beats up on Bluto
"Whate'er should be our Zodiac's star
We all are born to make or mar.
To each is gi'en a bag of tools
Some mentors, and a set of rules:
And each must carve, ere life has flown,
A stumbling block, or a stepping-stone"
(Author unknown)
Generation 35.
"Spikes" The cleats on baseball boots
"Spikes" On which newspaper editors impale copy for future reference, or ultimate destruction.
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That was just to make sure you didn't think I was calling you a liar, because I wasnt..
FRENCHREDSOX, sorry I didn't specify. I just thought it was quite clear that when I said "steroids" I was talking about illegal steroids that are against the rules.
Every player has done "steroids" because there are tons of legal steroids that all ballplayers take at one point or another, like cortisone, but I just figured that while we're discussing this topic, saying that a player did steroids is referring to a player taking steroids that are against the law/rules.
And just because he knows a steroid dealer, and because he refused to answer questions about the past, does not mean he did illegal steroids. We don't know what he used. All we KNOW is that he used a legal substance that was not against the rules.
We're driving people away? LMAO!
In the future then, when someone makes a statement, worded in that manner, it does mean you're calling someone something.
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