Yankees, Twins talking about Santana trade

[Coach Owens]

Why is this even a story?

They've made offers for him in the past. I'm sure I'm not the only one here that frequently checks MLBTradeRumors and there have been tons of posts and updates about Santana-Twins-Yankees in the past few months and even some prior to the trade deadline, if I'm not mistaken.

You actually read that site??

[beerchaser]

I read MLBTR too, sure some of what they have is garbage but occasionally something good too. Sometimes they have links to good stories elsewhere.

[beerchaser]

would giving up Hughes or Joba for a proven not so old vet be so bad?

I don't have strong feelings one way or the other about the Yanks getting Santana, but I do think it's ultimately going to happen, along with an enormous new contract.

[skudplayr]

I have no prob with it. The Yankees have the money to spend and have built a strong farm system. It's not their fault that they have one of the biggest fan bases in baseball and can afford it. They did a great job with their system...a few years ago they had nothing in the minors, now they have enough to get the best pitcher in baseball. More power to them. I just wish my Phillies owners would stop pinching the pockets and spend some of the money they clearly have.

[LLP]

Santana isn't about to be traded to the Yankees. There is no way that Minnesota would jeopardize their chance to win the World Series next year by trading the best pitcher in baseball. Minnesota is the favorite in the AL Central next year with Morneau, Mauer, Santana, and a healthy Liriano. They don't need to start selling the nucleus of their team that finished 1st in 2006, the last time that Liriano was healthy.

To trade Santana for somebody like Phillip Hughes, who might be great in the future is simply not a logical thing to do.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

Santana isn't about to be traded to the Yankees. There is no way that Minnesota would jeopardize their chance to win the World Series next year by trading the best pitcher in baseball. Minnesota is the favorite in the AL Central next year with Morneau, Mauer, Santana, and a healthy Liriano. They don't need to start selling the nucleus of their team that finished 1st in 2006, the last time that Liriano was healthy.

To trade Santana for somebody like Phillip Hughes, who might be great in the future is simply not a logical thing to do.

That's the gamble....but sport & especially trades are as much a question of luck as logic.As this year it is an abysmal FA Pitching group & it is almost certain that Santana will not sign an extension with the Twins,their GM is "testing" the market for his "star" player.

The likely hood is that he will start in Minny next & DEPENDING on the Twins position at deadline THEN they may move him.


However,if the Yankees (or whoever) throw at them a "nasty" deal eg Melky,Wang,Hughes & Chamberlain which solves both their short & long term needs then anything is possible.

[HoustonGM]

Santana isn't about to be traded to the Yankees. There is no way that Minnesota would jeopardize their chance to win the World Series next year by trading the best pitcher in baseball. Minnesota is the favorite in the AL Central next year with Morneau, Mauer, Santana, and a healthy Liriano. They don't need to start selling the nucleus of their team that finished 1st in 2006, the last time that Liriano was healthy.

To trade Santana for somebody like Phillip Hughes, who might be great in the future is simply not a logical thing to do.

The Twins are far from the favorite in the AL Central next year. Yes, they have a better chance of contending WITH Santana, but they could contend without him.

However,if the Yankees (or whoever) throw at them a "nasty" deal eg Melky,Wang,Hughes & Chamberlain which solves both their short & long term needs then anything is possible

That is a trade I would absolutely not do if I was the Yankees. That's just crazy. Trading away just Hughes is one thing - Santana replaces him in the rotation. But trading away 3/5ths of your projected rotation? That'd just be absolutely looney.

[Reade]

Minnesota is the favorite in the AL Central next year

On what planet? Someone forget that both Cleveland and Detroit has a better team than Minnesota right now. Morneau is only a .275 career hitter averaging about 100 strikeouts a year, Mauer is a decent hitter with no power and isn't a big run producer, where's the offense going to come from?

They better trade him now and get something for him, because the Twins won't give up the money he will be asking for at years end.

[dps]

While it's possible the Yankees will make the Twins an offer too good to turn down during the off-season, I think it's most likely that the Twins won't move Santana right away. They'll wait to see where they are as the trade deadline approaches. I've said it before, but if they're in a position to win it all, they'll hold on to him and then let him walk as a free agent; if they don't think they can win in 2008 then they'll make a deal before the deadline.

[ohms_law]

God, I can just imagine what he'll be asking for if the Twins do manage to make it to the series...

[beerchaser]

The only way I see the Twins keeping Santana into May/June is if they somehow think someone will panic and give them a better deal near the deadline. I rather doubt that though. They stand to lose too much by letting him walk after 2008, pennant race or no, so they ain't gonna keep him. They can't take a chance on maybe, possibly, getting a better deal at the deadline (the other way around is more likely), and they would risk public outcry if they did move him in the middle of a pennant race. He'll get moved before spring training.

[FRENCHREDSOX]

That is a trade I would absolutely not do if I was the Yankees. That's just crazy. Trading away just Hughes is one thing - Santana replaces him in the rotation. But trading away 3/5ths of your projected rotation? That'd just be absolutely looney.

While it's possible the Yankees will make the Twins an offer too good to turn down during the off-season, I think it's most likely that the Twins won't move Santana right away. They'll wait to see where they are as the trade deadline approaches. I've said it before, but if they're in a position to win it all, they'll hold on to him and then let him walk as a free agent; if they don't think they can win in 2008 then they'll make a deal before the deadline.

Which is WHAT I said ...

[HoustonGM]

I don't think that the Yankees offering a package that includes 3/5ths of their projected starting rotation is possible.

[Wassit3]

I don't think that the Yankees offering a package that includes 3/5ths of their projected starting rotation is possible.

doesn't make sense you're right but George has done crazy stuff before...

[asianinvasion]

...like giving Carl Pavano $10 million a year...