isn't this supposed to be about players in MLB TODAY!!! lol
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isn't this supposed to be about players in MLB TODAY!!! lol
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OK, but he didn't hit into that many double plays. He consistently hit into double plays right around the 10% mark, which is about average overall.Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I wasn't referring to OBP.
I was referring to double plays, hence multiple outs with one swing.
Besides, like robin mentioned, he made up for it. He was hitting in the 4 hole for most of his career, after all.
meh.. this is more fun!
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I know lol when will we behearing from the dave kingman for the HOF camp?? anybody? hellooooooo??? (chirpchirp chirp)....OK, but he didn't hit into that many double plays. He consistently hit into double plays right around the 10% mark, which is about average overall.
Besides, like robin mentioned, he made up for it. He was hitting in the 4 hole for most of his career, after all.
meh.. this is more fun!
Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are .
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OK: Dave Kingman, not even close.
You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann
If Kingman hadn't been blackballed he'd have been an interesting case though wouldn't he have been? He certainly would have passed the magical 500 homerun mark.
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He holds the top two single season marks, as well as tied for 6th and 15th, and he's 6th on the all time list. The players ahead of him Eddie Murray, Dave Winfield, Hank Aaron, Carl Yastrzemski, and Cal Ripken all had roughly 3,000 or more at bats.
Oh god, I wouldn't want ANY of those guys on my team...
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Poor fielding and he couldn't actually hit (despite getting home runs). He's probably one of the worst of the elite power hitters in the history of the game.
You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann
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Jim Rice had nearly as many double plays as all 5 of those players in 3,000+ less at bats. Their high career totals are mostly due to longevity.
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Look a the rates rather than the counts. I think you'll find it fairly reveling.
You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann
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Rice grounded into a double play once every 26 at bats. Of the top 10 players in career double plays, besides Rice, Julio Franco (GIDP every 27.8 at bats) is the only player that grounds into a double play more frequently than once every 30 at bats.
Rice had a streak of three consecutive seasons of 30+ GIDP. There have only been 14 such seasons in major league history.
I can't find any charts for all-time leaders in any GIDP rates, but Rice did have a high rate.
Problemo?
Define best. and Players and today. and MLB.
You ain't even considering the fact that Boston has fielded notoriously slow teams throughout the majority of it's history are you? Boston's been the poster boy of "load 'em up, and wait for a homer" style baseball for a very, very long time.
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Did I say anything except that Jim Rice grounded into a lot of double plays?
No, you didn't say anything....
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