barry mad at hall of fame

[robinhoodnik]

Anyhow, will Barry see the doors shut on him after the first ballot? How long will the writers make him wait if at all?

[ohms_law]

Look, I've spoken to bodybuilders, have some in my family, read a lot of the reports. They all tell me that Andro isn't going to make you look like Mac did. That's the result of steroid abuse. These guys know what they're talking about, because some of them did the stuff too.

Pure speculation. You're obviously free to believe whatever you wish, but I personally wouldn't take the word of a body builder, professional or not, as being truly "expert" (with the obvious exception of those who happen to have a medical degree). There's just to much going on with steroids and the human body for anyone but real experts to carry any real weight on this subject, in my opinion. Even those who actively develop steroids and study their effects can't seem to predict their effect on individuals. Just like most drugs.

Anyhow, will Barry see the doors shut on him after the first ballot? How long will the writers make him wait if at all?

...man, who knows. Big Mac is basically the test case for all of this, and that's only just begun to play out.

[robinhoodnik]

Pure speculation. You're obviously free to believe whatever you wish, but I personally wouldn't take the word of a body builder, professional or not, as being truly "expert" (with the obvious exception of those who happen to have a medical degree). There's just to much going on with steroids and the human body for anyone but real experts to carry any real weight on this subject, in my opinion. Even those who actively develop steroids and study their effects can't seem to predict their effect on individuals. Just like most drugs.

...man, who knows. Big Mac is basically the test case for all of this, and that's only just begun to play out.

Yep, going to the source is always pure speculation....

Think they'll let Mark in this time, or hold him back again?

[ohms_law]

I think so...

[RickD]

I think so and I hope so!

[CatKnight]

Oh God, the players voting would be horrible. Fans....maybe, though I'd extend the 5 year post-retirement limit to ten years then. I agree the current system needs repairing.

As for Herr Bonds...if he wants to be a whiny cry-baby, then he doesn't have to go.

I find the idea of adding an asterisk to the ball rather amusing....I can see why it would bother him, but too bad. It's not his call. As I understand it, the ball's owner made the ball's being marked a condition of giving it to Cooperstown.

[robinhoodnik]

I would have got a red hot branding iron and asterisked that baby. That'd never come off.

[HoustonGM]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...2&sportCat=mlb

Great article on this issue, especially:

You would think the HOF would be appalled by this, but it seems eager to be used, foolishly believing having the ball outweighs the contamination of history. It sounds like a mistress excited because her married man spends Columbus Day with her instead of Christmas.

"We don't believe in defacing artifacts," said Jeff Idelson, the HOF's vice president for communications and education. "In this one instance, we're willing to look beyond it."

What will the HOF do if the feds never gain enough evidence to file charges against Bonds? Use Wite-Out to cover up the asterisk? The HOF's job is to preserve historical artifacts, and right now, no one has proved that Bonds took performance enhancers.

Think of the dangerous precedent this sets. Does that mean if P Diddy gets his hands on the next record-setting home run ball he can stamp "Sean John" on it before turning it in? Would the Hall be willing to accept a historic Ty Cobb cap with the word "racist" written on it? Would the Hall accept a historic Mickey Mantle uniform that says "alcoholic," "bad father" and "prescription painkiller addict"?