Yawn...Originally Posted by ohms_law
Now about Barry's induction. Do you think they'll do the same to him as Big Mac got? Or will they roll out the red carpet and just ignore what he did after '98/ I think the majority of yes votes will be based on what he did up until 1998. But the whole IRS thing is probably the #1 problem right now, with a close second being the perjury charges being levelled against him. Those may cause him some problems, especially if they end in any amount of jail time.
E=I*R
Yup, "Yawn" is about exactly what I said as well.
As for Barry, I'm all but certain that he'll be treated exactly like Big Mac. LIke I said, the induction process is a joke any more.It's nothing but a bunch of silly reporters who thing that they can somehow "repent" or something for their hero worship and the encouragement that they gave these guys throughout the 1990's. And people wonder why Barry distrusts the media so much...
You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann
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I agree here. I know it's wishful thinking but a fan voted HOF would be awesome. Thats why I like what Petrel is doing. Giving the fans a voice! Sure it's not official but it is fun.
As for Barry.....I don't like him personally, but for his career he did do some great things....sure they might be enhanced and with proof I would change my mine but otherwise let him in and let him alone. Morality in the HOF is moot anyways. I just finished reading about Babe Ruth. The man was a jerk. He's in.
Mark Mcgwire took and admitted taking a legal substance at the time and when it was banned he stopped. He should be in for what he contributed to the game when he played not as Ohms said held out because reporters are trying to Repent.
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I think it should be ball players and fans only for HOF voting...
Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are .
That's the biggest problem I have. It was not legal at the time. MLB hadn't banned it, but MLB doesn't run our legal system. I think that's a pretty weak arguement.
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So he should be barred entry to the Hall because he broke the law?
Say goodbye to a bunch of HOFers.
Some call me Mr.Biggles
why not kick everyone out of the HOF and have everyone have to be re-elected??
Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are .
No, that silly "it wasn't against the rules" arguement. It really doesn't matter if it wasn't against the rules if it's against the law now does it?
Why not just slam the door before the rats get in instead of debating whether they should have been allowed in after the fact?
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I'm not following you. You say he shouldn't be in the Hall. You admit he didn't break the rules. So, it follows that you think he shouldn't in the Hall because he broke the law. Or am I mistaken?
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Becuase the Hall of Fame is meant to chronicle baseball history, not have its door shut after a certain point, while baseball is still going on.
No, you're intentionally misrepresenting my statement, and you're not very good at that sort of thing.
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I'm not intentionally doing anything. I may be misunderstanding you, which is why I'm asking you to clarify.No, you're intentionally misrepresenting my statement, and you're not very good at that sort of thing.
E=I*R
The players voting is actually one of the best ideas around, in my opinion.
Dude, he went and bought the stuff from GNC.
Androstenedione is still available online. The FDA banned it's (over the counter) sale in the US in 2004, only after the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2004 was passed.
Even with the above, it's only a schedule III drug. It's still available with a prescription.
You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann
Look, I've spoken to bodybuilders, have some in my family, read a lot of the reports. They all tell me that Andro isn't going to make you look like Mac did. That's the result of steroid abuse. These guys know what they're talking about, because some of them did the stuff too.
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