Ah. That's why I didn't see it. I was looking at your post, and you can't warn or infract a mod's posts apparantly.
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Ah. That's why I didn't see it. I was looking at your post, and you can't warn or infract a mod's posts apparantly.
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Just as a forum user I like the idea!
Complaining? I didn't realize I was complaining. I was giving an opinion on a product which I use regularly. If you're complaining about moderating the BMO forums, then leave it to those mods who play the game.Originally Posted by ohms_law
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That was exactly my point.
You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann
Wouldn't not opening with a 7 or 10 day ban help some? How about a 24 hour ban for smaller offenses or warnings? The initial bans are ridiculous, and for things that aren't all that bad too often.
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Aside from one group, who are you talking about? I can count on one hand (if that group is counted as one "instance") the number of non-spam related users I've banned.
You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann
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Nevermind the fact that I've pissed off Dee a couple of times for unbanning or reducing the length of a couple of bans.
You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann
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The general rule of thumb is not to over step our boundries. I will not un-bann somebody unless I find the banning to be unwarrented, but if an Admin does the ban, I do not touch it.
Just something that I do, and of course if I would do an unbanning or reduction I would first consult the moderator who did so...
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Replying to this post from ohms in another thread:
This is the reason that forum I linked to has such strict spam rules. Posts that don't add to the conversation in any way just muddy up otherwise flowing discussions. They have a "Testing Grounds" forum where posts don't count towards post count, which mainly serves as just that - a place to test things regarding posting, but spammy threads also end up happening.hehe, funny.and then put the blender on medium high
I'm trying to encourage people to quit posting like this in (most) of the Baseball Mogul, Football Mogul, and Baseball Mogul Online threads though. I mean, certain threads it's obvious that it's not a problem, but things like this where there are actual questions and discussion going on, it gets to be real distracting.
The key is that these threads serve as a reference into the future. Many of us link to them when new threads come up on the same subject. Occasionally, new people who actually know how to use the forum's search feature (it does actually happen! This thread is a perfect example.) will even come along and resurrect these threads to ask and have their own questions answered.
I'm not really trying to be a stick in the mud here, but I've noticed quite few threads recently where there's basically a bunch of garbage in the middle of them. And before anyone else points it out: yes, I'm just as guilty, if not more so, then anyone else.
I've never paid any attention on our forums to meaningless or short posts that have zero value to the thread at hand, and I've also never bothered to not post such things, as that's basically how this site has been run for a while now - really laidback. I'm fine with that, but I also understand the need to have organized threads where each post contributes to the discussion (outside of "moderator" posts that say "Thread closed." or "Thread moved" or the like. On the linked forum, moderators actually post such "mod messages" in bold red font to make it stand out and separate it from the rest of the discussion).
Personally, I'm fine with keeping things the way they are, or getting a little tighter on "spam" (using the "meaningless" post definition). Though, I am afraid that if we do do that, there's going to be an outcry of "abuse of power" or "too strict" or whatever. But, here's what a little outline of a plan if we were to do something regarding this.
Sports Talk and Ejections would be left unchanged. Things would go on as they currently are.
For the Baseball Mogul and Football Mogul forums, except the Leagues and Dynasties forums for obvious reasons, meaningless off-topic posts, as well as short posts like "lol" that contribute nothing to the conversation, will be deleted, and a PM will be sent to the poster letting them know why the post was deleted and kindly instructing them to keep posts in those forums on-topic. A poster who ignores this and continually does this will get "warned" or "infracted" and some sort of "punishment" (in the form of a suspension [ie. temporary ban] or a ban if they've been previously suspended for the same offense) would be instituted.
Obviously, an announcement would be made to alert users of the new rule, and perhaps a sticky thread added to each affected forum outlining the new rules.
I'd also suggest adding a forum for the posts that currently go in General Discussion that showcase players, interesting games, records, etc. and keeping General Discussion on actual game issues that don't fit in Bug Reports or Suggestions & AI. I actually think that this would be a good idea regardless of whether or not any new "spam" rules are used. I would even offer to clean up the current General Discussion forum by moving all currently existing posts of that nature to the newly created forum. This forum would not be subject to the "spam rules". I'm actually going to cross-post this into a separate thread.
This is just an idea for if we did decide to "crack down" on such posts and make sure to keep all threads on topic. I'm perfectly fine with keeping things the way they are and just "encouraging" people to stay on topic.
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FYI: I put this post as moderated so that only moderators can see it.
As for the crack down, I don't think that we need to do that, we don't need forum police here. I like the sense of community here and think that locking threads...should never happen but instead moderate the thread...
The lol post don't bug me...and I love to post pad and it keeps people on the forums and more loyal to the product. Lets not crack down the forum unless Clay request it, because it is his company, vision , product and his service he provides. It isn't are's
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Good idea.
I don't think that locking threads should never happen, as there are times when "enough is enough."As for the crack down, I don't think that we need to do that, we don't need forum police here. I like the sense of community here and think that locking threads...should never happen but instead moderate the thread...
I agree. Ohms post from another thread just got me thinking, and he does have a point, but I don't think what I outlined above is necessary, just an idea.The lol post don't bug me...and I love to post pad and it keeps people on the forums and more loyal to the product. Lets not crack down the forum unless Clay request it, because it is his company, vision , product and his service he provides. It isn't are's
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Good idea on making this moderated. Hey, I think we can use that in general for threads which are intended to be moderator discussions. They are hidden from non-moderator users... I guess this is our "new" mods forum.
As for the subject at hand, I'm of the opinion that nothing needs to actually change. I like the openness of the forums quite a bit, myself. Like I said in the post which you've quoted, I'd like to encourage folks not to post superfluous comments in meaningful threads. I'm not about to actually take any action about it if people do though, beyond occasionally bitching at them for doing so. I really don't want to do anything more than that anyway. Handing out infractions, or something similar, for it would be a real PITA anyway.
You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann
Ask Clay or Dee to add a strictly Q&A subforum to each area if you're that interested in dumping posts. We don't need to piss off any more customers/subscribers/potential clients/etc. by deleting and threatening than already have been driven off the boards.
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agree, I don't think there should be much moderation, unless needed.
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Who's been driven off?
Anyway, no one is talking about deleting or closing threads here. I don't understand the hostility...
You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann
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