View Poll Results: Is one swing worth 14 million dollars?

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    Re: J. D. Drew

    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Owens View Post
    So, you're saying that there's 10,000 people without accents, who just happen to have lived in Boston or have gone to college in Boston? I doubt it.
    If you're "10,000" statistic is true, which I highly doubt (because you couldn't have spoken to all 10,000 of those people and know that they don't have accents), how in the world do you know that all 10,000 of those people live in Seattle? Boston fans are some of the most intense sports fans in America. It's common for them to fly around the country attending games in other cities.

    Also, it is possible to live in a city, even be born and raised in a city, and not have that city's "accent."

    I just think you're generalizing and making huge assumptions.

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    Re: J. D. Drew

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Game 7, World Series, down by 1, runner on third, bottom of the 9th inning, 2 outs..

    The hitter hits a home run.

    Is that swing worth 14 million dollars?
    Sure it is, IF that swing guarantees a World Series win. But HGM, aren't you the one who is always pooh-pooh-ing the effects of small sample sizes?

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    Re: J. D. Drew

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    If you're "10,000" statistic is true, which I highly doubt (because you couldn't have spoken to all 10,000 of those people and know that they don't have accents), how in the world do you know that all 10,000 of those people live in Seattle? Boston fans are some of the most intense sports fans in America. It's common for them to fly around the country attending games in other cities.

    Also, it is possible to live in a city, even be born and raised in a city, and not have that city's "accent."

    I just think you're generalizing and making huge assumptions.
    Look, if you're a "true fan," wouldn't you actually know who some of the Red Sox are? Because those people obviously didn't.

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    Re: J. D. Drew

    Quote Originally Posted by beerchaser View Post
    Sure it is, IF that swing guarantees a World Series win.
    That situation would guarantee a World Series win.

    But HGM, aren't you the one who is always pooh-pooh-ing the effects of small sample sizes?
    This isn't a statistical analysis. I wouldn't base my opinion of a hitter's ability on one swing. I wouldn't hail the player that got the hit as a great clutch hitter. But, a World Series win is extremely beneficial financially, and the swing that clinches that World Series victory could certainly be worth $14 million. Now, I'm not saying that it is. I don't think there's really anyway to put a monetary value on a single swing, but as ohms said, when something is the deciding factor of the season, why isn't it worth a lot?

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    Re: J. D. Drew

    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Owens View Post
    Look, if you're a "true fan," wouldn't you actually know who some of the Red Sox are? Because those people obviously didn't.
    How do you know?

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    Re: J. D. Drew

    I was surronded by them. You could hear them saying stuff like "Who's he?" for people like Pedroia and Lugo.

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    Re: J. D. Drew

    *shrug* While there's probably fans that are like what you're saying, I do believe that you're making massive assumptions of entire fanbases based on very little.

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    Re: J. D. Drew

    Of course, it's not really possible to purchase that one swing either. No one that I know of has psychic abilities and can know that a particular player will make that swing.
    Not exactly something that you can make a managerial decision with.
    You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann

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    Re: J. D. Drew

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    This isn't a statistical analysis. I wouldn't base my opinion of a hitter's ability on one swing. I wouldn't hail the player that got the hit as a great clutch hitter. But, a World Series win is extremely beneficial financially, and the swing that clinches that World Series victory could certainly be worth $14 million. Now, I'm not saying that it is. I don't think there's really anyway to put a monetary value on a single swing, but as ohms said, when something is the deciding factor of the season, why isn't it worth a lot?
    I was being facetious, dude. As my favorite cartoon character Foghorn Leghorn says, "that's a joke, son".

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    I was being facetious, dude.
    Humm... didn't come across that way. Pretty common mistake to make on a message board.
    You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann

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    Re: J. D. Drew

    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Owens View Post
    The type of bandwagon fans that I'm talking about are the ones that live in the cities of the team that the Red Sox are playing who's team sucks and so they see the Red Sox's record and decide to cheer for them instead of their hometown team. Those people are morons.
    aka "frontrunners".

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    Re: J. D. Drew

    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Owens View Post
    So, you're saying that there's 10,000 people without accents, who just happen to have lived in Boston or have gone to college in Boston? I doubt it.
    I don't have an accent.

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    Re: J. D. Drew

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Boston fans are some of the most intense sports fans in America. It's common for them to fly around the country attending games in other cities.
    This is true. It's often cheaper to fly to Baltimore, New York, Tampa, or many other cities with smaller nearby airports that are serviced by smaller airlines, who offer cheap fares (like Southwest).

    If you can get a ticket to Fenway, you're going to pay well over face value, which is already exhorbitant, pay an outrageous day of game parking rate, and get soaked for food and beverages. Then you gotta try and get out of Boston afterwards, which isn't very easy under ideal circumstances. You can take the T, but you can also get shot for your trouble, or be stranded if the T stops running before a late game gets out.

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    Re: J. D. Drew

    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Owens View Post
    I was surronded by them. You could hear them saying stuff like "Who's he?" for people like Pedroia and Lugo.
    There are a lot of them. Even here. It's just a place to be seen now (Fenway) for a lot of people. I am often accosted by "fans" who don't know the difference between Yastrzemski and Mientkiewicz. They just like being part of something, and if they're willing to support my addiction...er, team; I guess that I have to just (grudgingly) be polite.

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    Re: J. D. Drew

    Quote Originally Posted by robinhoodnik View Post
    This is true. It's often cheaper to fly to Baltimore, New York, Tampa, or many other cities with smaller nearby airports that are serviced by smaller airlines, who offer cheap fares (like Southwest).

    If you can get a ticket to Fenway, you're going to pay well over face value, which is already exhorbitant, pay an outrageous day of game parking rate, and get soaked for food and beverages. Then you gotta try and get out of Boston afterwards, which isn't very easy under ideal circumstances. You can take the T, but you can also get shot for your trouble, or be stranded if the T stops running before a late game gets out.
    I was talking to a Red Sox fan today & he told me that Game 1 tickets are being "sold" for 1300/1400$ whereas he could get Game 3 & 4(in Denver) tickets for 650$....

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