I don't think that there is a cap. The real life examples that I saw certainly didn't appear that way, anyway. I'll have to find the other thread, with the link in it.
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I don't think that there is a cap. The real life examples that I saw certainly didn't appear that way, anyway. I'll have to find the other thread, with the link in it.
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I know that in the new NHL CBA the maximum raise is definitely capped. And most of these concepts tend to cycle around the major sports.
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Yea. The NHL implemented a salary cap as well, though. I don't think that there will be an arbitration cap until an overall salary cap is implemented. Really, when you think about it, what would be the point of an arbitration cap without a salary cap anyway?
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It slows the rate that arbitration players increase their salary. That means that arbitration elligible players tend to be far more affordable than pure Free Agency elligible guy's. In BBm arbitration elligible players are actually MORe expensive than pure free agents. That's a problem...
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Occasionally, but not usually. The arbitration problems are really just with the high profile players, I think. The average guys seem to ask for deacent amounts in arbitration, but the problem is that the AI doesn't want to pay them for some reason, and they get released to free agency. With the vast majority of guys being free agents, the mediocre players become a dime a dozen, never receive offers, and their asking prices drop precipitously. It's more complex than their arbitration valuation, it all.Originally Posted by dolfanar
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Nope. I've seen Mopup guy's with ERA over 5, and less than 40 appearances ask AND receive $3,000,000 with Salary demands at -30%.
Marginal bench players tend to be ok, but pitchers demands are FUBAR, particularly releivers, and the big guns also tend to get ridiculous awards. If the game isn't going to use a true comparables system, then an alternative is needed, and capping Arbitration awards is the only way to go.
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I disagree. Pitchers valuations are going to be high, no matter what. Neither the arbitration awards nor the free agent signing prices are normally way out of line with reality, from what I've seen.
The largest complaints with arbitration are always that the star players are asking for 8 figure yearly salaries, and that the AI doesn't sign enough guys who are arbitration eligible (they tend to non-tender players, which is rare in reality). The ramp up in asking prices should be reduced, so that the values of all awards would be more even than is seen on the free agent market, and the AI should be much more willing to deal with arbitration than it is.
With those two problems being as prevalent as they currently are, it's hard to say just how messed up the arbitration system really is, anyway. Arbitration eligible players on AI teams constantly being released messes up the data anyway, since their eventual signings off of the free agent market (if they do get signed) are artificially deflated due to the abundance of competition. There's a feedback effect going on that screws with the whole system.
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But the AI is actually being VERY logical when dealing with Arbitration demands... why keep an arbitration elligible player at 10,000,000 when you can get an equivalent (sometimes better) player off the Free Agent market at 7 million, or an acceptable replacement for half that?
The root cause is without a doubt the actual arbitration awards themselves.
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The reason that there are guys at $7 mil has more to do with them languishing on the free agent market than their actual asking price, though. Look at the same guy asking for $7 Mil when he was arbitration eligible, and he was asking for $12 Mil. Like I said, it's a feedback loop. Everyone gets releases, FA asking prices for everyone except the superstars is reduced, and then there's no reason to sign guys in arbitration. It's cheaper to release them and sign the guy who's been playing in Mexico for a year.
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