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Thread: How to File a Good Bug Report (Including Bug Reporting forum rules)

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2005

    Exclamation How to File a Good Bug Report (Including Bug Reporting forum rules)

    Why take the time to file a good bug report? Because:
    • it will save developers time (this time can be used fixing a bug rather than trying to decipher a bug report)
    • it will increase the likelihood the bug is fixed

    How to file a good bug report
    1. Use a descriptive thread title - Clay's post
      • I would recommend a standardized thread title format
        1. BUG: [version number(s)] short but informative description for bugs
        2. TECH: [version number(s)] short but informative description for technical issues
      • Clay posted this about titles:
        Quote Originally Posted by Clay Dreslough
        use a title like "Pitch count too high in Manager Mode" or "Transaction Log corrupted by team name changes", then I will read the post and try to fix it as soon as I can
    2. Include vital information
      • Operating System (especially if not WinXP)
      • Changes made to files/settings
      • Clay recommends these be added to ALL bug reports:
        Quote Originally Posted by Clay Dreslough
        1) Does it occur during Simulation, General Manager Mode, Manager Mode, Player Mode -- or all 4?
        2) If it occurs in Play-By-Play, does it happen for human-controlled teams, computer-controlled teams, or both.
      • List actions that cause the error to occur
      • The contents of the debug.txt file (for errors that freeze the game or cause the game to crash)
      • Attach the .mog file (for bugs that seem to be related to the saved file)
      • Attach pictures of bug when possible
      • Provide as much relevant information as possible
    3. Only one bug per report (file them seperately, they have to be addressed seperately)
    4. Be clear (both so everyone can understand and so less time is needed to identify the bug)
    5. Don't rant (there is a forum just for that, this is not it)
      Quote Originally Posted by Clay Dreslough
      I'll probably ignore a thread like "This game is terrible"
    6. Look for previous reports that match your bug and post in those rather than create a new one
    7. Look for follow-ups but be patient, priority is set by those that fix the bugs
      • You may be asked to post a file
      • You may be asked to clarify a point
      • You may be asked for more information
      • Someone may provide a 'work around'
      • A fix may already exist

    This post may be helpful as well.

    Hopefully this is helpful. I will edit it if anyone has better or additional ideas.

    [Clay edit] Final note: I'm using this forum as a "task list". For example, I will edit thread titles to add something like "[Fixed 9.26]" when I fix a bug in the code, even if I haven't tested it yet. I will make this edit BEFORE I have posted Version 9.26 -- so this may be a bit confusing. Before you ask where 9.26 is, realize that I'm basically just "writing myself a note", and the next patch will get posted reasonably soon.

    If you find a bug that I've already marked as fixed, please start a NEW thread with a title like "Team names scrambled in Transactions: Not fixed in 9.26".

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Sep 2005

    How to Post your Boxscore or Game Recap

    How to post your Boxscore or Game Recap

    Accessing the Boxscore or Game Recap
    Both your Boxscore and Game Recap (often called play-by-play) can be accessed 3 ways:
    1. From the play-by-play screen
      Just above the lineups, near the upper left corner, there are 2 buttons.
      • Clicking on the 'Box Score' button with bring up the Boxscore
      • Clicking on the 'Recap' button will bring up the Game Recap (play-by-play)
    2. From the Calendar
      Put the mouse cursor over the calendar day and
      • Left-click to bring up Boxscore
      • Right-click to bring up Game Recap (play-by-play)
    3. Directly from the file
      Intentionally left out at this point

    The Boxscore or Game Recap will be opened using your system's designated text editor.

    Copy and Paste into your Post
    1. Copy entire text of open file to your clipboard
      1. Highlight text using mouse or keyboard
      2. Copy highlighted text to clipboard by
        • Hitting CTRL-C; or
        • Choosing Copy command from text editor's menu; or
        • Right-clicking on highlighted text and choosing Copy from menu that comes up
    2. Paste it to your post
      1. Putting the text cursor where you want to paste it
      2. Giving paste command
        • Hitting CTRL-V; or
        • Choosing Paste command from browser's menu; or
        • Right-clicking where cursor is and choosing Paste from menu that comes up

    3. Enclose it in CODE commands to make it easier to read (can be done before or after pasting)
      Not needed for Game Recap unless you are pasting all or most of it, but makes Boxscore readable
      • Before Pasting; or
        • Hit the # button on the message editor's menu buttons and then placing the text cursor between the [CODE] and [/CODE] and then pasting; or
        • simply typing [CODE][/CODE] and then putting the text cursor between the [CODE] and [/CODE] and then pasting
      • After Pasting
        • Highlight the pasted text and hit the # button on the message editor's menu buttons ; or
        • simply typing [CODE] before the pasted text [/CODE] after it

    How to Post an Attachment
    Note: Here is a post on How To Make A Screen Shot
    1. You need to hit the 'New Thread' button or 'Post Reply' button (if you use Quick Reply method, you need to hit the 'Go Advanced' button) to begin creating/editing a post.
    2. Under 'Additional Options', there is an 'Attach Files' box with a 'Manage Attachments' button. Click on that button.Attachment 4339
    3. A pop-up window titled 'Manage Attachments' will appear. The file you wish to attach must be of one of the file types listed under Attachment Key.
      1. In the 'Upload File from your Computer' box, hit the 'Browse...' button and find the file you wish to upload. Attachment 4340
        • The file will usually be in Program Files/Sports Mogul/Baseball 2007 or one of its subfolders.
          • Valid extensions are: bmp doc gif jpe jpeg jpg mog pdf png psd txt zip
          • The saved game files have a mog extension.
          • For screenshots: jpg or jpeg files are prefered over bmp or gif files as they are usually smaller.
      2. Click on file, then click the 'Open' button
      3. The file should now be listed in the box to the left of the 'Browse...' button. Click the 'Upload' button to upload the file as an attachment.
        Attachment 4341
      4. A new box should appear titled 'Current Attachments' and inside should be listed the file(s) you have attached.
      5. Repeat until all files you wish to attach are attached.
    4. If you wish to actually show any picture file you have uploaded in your post
      1. Place the text cursor where you wish to place the picture
      2. Press the button that looks like a paper clip above your editing spaceAttachment 4343
      3. Select the uploaded file you wish to place there
      4. Board should place code that looks like [ATTACH]Upload ID Number[/ATTACH] where the text cursor is.
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  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    On the ice blue line of insanity.

    Re: How to File a Good Bug Report


    Thanks very much for posting this. It's a great guide to posting good bug reports.

    I'm also going to use this space to clarify what all the 'Fixed' comments mean. As I have a fixed a bug I will often edit the bug title to add something like [Fixed 9.32].

    1) 9.32 is the version number. It may refer to a patch that hasn't been released yet. In this case, it means the bug should be fixed in the next patch.

    2) If you are running the version number show (or higher) and you still see the bug, please start a new thread and describe the bug again (the more detail the better as it's possible that the bug is fixed except for in a few situations).

    You can get the most recent official patch by choosing 'Check For New Version...' from the Help Menu inside Baseball Mogul.

    You can get the most recent unofficial patch by checking the top of the Bugs and Technical Issues forum (where there should be a stickied post with the words 'Unofficial Patch').

    Clay Dreslough, Sports Mogul Inc.
    cjd at sportsmogul dot com / blog / twitter

    Forum Rules
    Bug reports and roster corrections:

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Edison, NJ

    Baseball Mogul: Bug Reports Forum Guidelines

    This forum is intended to be a place to discuss problems that occur with the game.

    This is a technical forum, not a general discussion forum. In order for Clay and Ian to see and respond to bug reports in a timely manner, it is important to keep the "noise" in this forum down. Please do not post new threads that are not about a Bug in this forum. Please also keep discussions as specific as possible to the original post as you can.

    Threads that are not about bug reports will be moved to a different forum by the moderators!

    Thread topics are important in this forum. Please state in the topic the exact version of Baseball Mogul that you are reporting a bug about. Please also be as descriptive as possible about the bug in your thread title.

    Thread titles can and will be modified by moderators for appropriate format and content as required!

    The Official Windows 98/ME Thread is the place to post about problems with Windows 98/ME. Threads started regarding issues with Windows 98/ME will be merged with the official Windows 98/Me thread.

    As with all other forums on this message board, spam or inappropriate posts will be deleted and the poster delt with.
    You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann

  5. #5
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    Jun 2006
    Edison, NJ

    Re: How to File a Good Bug Report (Including Bug Reporting forum rules)

    This is a direct copy of the thread from the Baseball Mogul: Bug reports forum. 99.9% of the information here is still applicable to Football Mogul though, so please follow the advise given.

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