but... it's not. player salaries have a very small corellation to the team's revenue. Player's, once they enter free agency, get what the market will bear.
It's disgusting. Sports players shouldn't earn that much.
It's disgusting. Nobody should earn that much.
It reminds me that in a capitalist economy, everyone gets paid according to their ability to generate revenue.
I think sports stars get paid for their ability, but I think the business world works differently.
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but... it's not. player salaries have a very small corellation to the team's revenue. Player's, once they enter free agency, get what the market will bear.
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can i have a copy of your correlation stats?
i think player X will bring 12 million a year in revenue and im willing to spend 8 million to get it. you think player X will bring in 13 million a year and are willing to spend 6 million.
why will he bring in 12-13 million? because he puts up stats that help the team win and fans want to see the team win.
its still market economics and "what the market will bear", its just whats driving it that we disagree on? i guess we can agree to disagree
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That's because it is not all about gate receipts. It is also about being subsidized (through stadiums paid through taxes, tax breaks, etc), TV revenues (local and national), advertising, licensing/branding, etc. The union knows where the money comes from, that is why they don't want it tied to the gate.
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One funny thing about baseball, most players don't get paid what they are 'worth' when they are worth it, they get paid for promise (high draftee signing bonuses) and what they have done (any number of older players that were good in their prime and now are hardly league average but making a fortune)
Nor do the owners...Originally Posted by SirKodiak
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I assume the owners would love salaries to be tied to the gate, then they wouldn't have to share the ESPN/Fox contracts, their local contracts, advertising, licensing, etc. Most of that is money guarenteed of a period of time and very stable, unlike the gate that varies with how well the product performs.
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yea, no kidding. I think that the owners would fall all over themselves to sign a CBA that tied gate receipts to player's pay.
TV and media is where the money is at. The players and the player agent's and the owners all know where the deep pockets are.
Where our views differ DH, is that I have the sense that in your view a player's value to a ball club primarily comes from how much money the ownership feels that particular player can draw. In my view, that is an aspect of the process for some specific players, but even in cases where it does have an effect I beleave that it's only minor. Im backing up my view with personal observation only at this point, but I could probably dig something up if it's actually important to anyone.
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I think it's more about placating ego's. Most "professional" athletes behave in a manner closely resembling that of pre-teen children. They are outwardly moody, selfish, greedy, and petulant. I really don't think that I'd want to spend a whole lot of time around most of the pro's myself.
Sounds a good description of my character (also that of other "prima donnas" - music artistes,TV 'stars' etc)
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lol
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I feel confident that you'd be able to behave yourself in front of a television camera for approximately 45 seconds.
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bah, stop propagating the stereotype Americans have of the French
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i think it stems from the fact that i believe there are too many investors and not enough baseball guys in the ownership role. to investors, its all about the bottom line. to baseball guys, its about the hardware in the cabinet (or on their fingers).
lmao!bah, stop propagating the stereotype Americans have of the French
Nah just propagating my own unque IMAGE.bah, stop propagating the stereotype Americans have of the French
But essentially these people who are in limite supply often mix wealth & manners - unfortunately they dont use their wealth to e taught how to have "style" & "common regards for others" .A last point is that we (the fans) revere too many stars & this leads to even further bloating of their false" self worth (I mean Ted Williams or Tom Cruise never invented anything or went out to work in Calcutta for 30 odd years to save starving children)
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