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The poll is right here...
Yes, I think expanding at this point would be a silly thing to do...the main idea was to test out the voting method on Demochoice. (Which you folks really should check out; it would be so much better than the usual method of deciding elections in the U.S.) Right now, though, Portland and Charlotte are winning - borrrrring!
My 1st choice isn't even in the poll. :mad:
my 4th choice was portland....and that is where my vote went too...bullcrap...this poll is ****..... My 1st choice was buffalo NY, i want to see 3 MLB NY TEAMS..
This is much too confusing for most people. Imagine voter apathy after they were told about this. It would all work backwards.
I want a New England regional N.L. team. We deserve a team with a stadium that is convenient, affordable, and large enough to hold more than 35,000 comfortably (Not that Fenway holds that many comfortably). Hartford would host the stadium I'm sure. I heard on the radio today that a group is trying to put together backing for a new arena to attract another NHL franchise so why not? I know I'm dreaming here with the whole baseball thing, but so what. ;)
I love how when I google 'MLB Expansion', I get a thread on the SportsMogul forums. I say Hartford needs an NL team!
...I'm missing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clay Dreslough
You mean you don't see it in Google?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I actually Googled 'mlb expansion hartford' and it was #5.
Ah, WITH hartford. thought you meant just "mlb expansion." lol
Y'all need to remember that Hartford's NHL team is now in Raleigh. I want a MLB team in Raleigh too, doggone it. Charlotte sux.
Being originally from Hartford, I'd say they'd bend over backwards to get a NL team ... but it'd never work. Hartford's population is declining, the economy is sputtering along, and everyone there likes the Sox or Yanks. A new team would have an awful lot of trouble getting enough support to survive.
Incidentally, regarding the confusion back in 2005 about how this works....it's confusing because it's not how Americans do it. I think Australia and some European countries do.
You rank your votes 1st-4th (5th, 20th, whatever) because, after round one, if no option has a 50%+ majority the one receiving the least votes is eliminated. Anyone who voted for the now eliminated choice, rather than being disenfranchised, moves on to their second pick. This continues until someone has a majority.
It's not really needed in a two-party system like the US, but with multiple parties it helps guarantee that if my guy can't be elected, then I should be able to live with who does since he's my 2nd or 3rd choice.
I just googled "MLB expansion Charlotte" and saw my post on this thread, lol. I think it's time for MLB to look at expanding, or else do something with the Marlins or some other team like the Royals. It sucks that we don't have a home team here in North Carolina, which is the 10th most populous state in the US and growing. ****, we can't even watch the Orioles and Nats in NC because of the ongoing pissing contest between Time Warner and MASN, and the Braves aren't even on TBS anymore.
MLB added 4 teams in the 90's but none in this decade, and even if two new teams were announced today, they wouldn't start playing before 2011 at the absolute earliest. That'd be what, 14 years since the Rays and Dbacks? I'm sure the same old tired arguments about "dilution of pitching" would be brought up against it, but I think the way pitchers are handled these days probably has more to do with that than any drop in the talent pool. Pitch counts, complete games are going the way of the horse and buggy, LH relief pitchers are brought in to face one batter and gone, and most closers pitch one inning, max. Teams routinely carry 12, maybe 13 pitchers on their 25 man roster now. Is this really necessary?
More expansion is a BAD idea. You water down your talent base, and in fact weaken your talent in the short to mid term, simply because rosters need to be filled out, and typically are by guys who would normally not be in the Majors. Just look at the NHL...they added 9 teams in 9 years, and are just NOW pulling out of it on a talent basis.
I don't really want more expansion. But, I agree with BeerChaser - i think one of the Florida teams should move here to Charlotte. Charlotte is a great city, steadily growing - and the downtown is practically empty on weekends! The football stadium is an absolute waste of space when one of the 10 games a season isn't being played there...can't they make it into dual-use or anything?
Heck, the Knights play in SC! The Charlotte knights play in SC! Not that I'm complaining - it's easier to get in and out of, and 5 mins from my house!
They need another team in the AL west.
I'm thinking contraction not expansion!
If you ever tried to get tickets for a Red Sox game, you'd be thinking expansion.
I know it's silly that most teams don't even sell out their playoff games. But here in Red Sox Nation, it would be nice to be able to watch your major league team play in person every now and then.
Not gonna happen, if contraction was going to happen it already would have. Expansion is going to happen sooner or later; just a question of when and where.Quote:
Originally Posted by RickD
God, I hope we can get a team here in Charlotte or Raleigh, NC.
I'm curious on something dealing with N.C. When the Twins were nearly sold to Don Beaver, he was going to move it to the Piedmont(?) Triangle. Did that include Charolette or not?
Mexico City....batters will love it!
We need a team in Norfolk/ hampton roads areas......
.....even if i'm the only one that will go to the games :)
well the Hampton Roads Mariners were very successful
I agree! Dump the Wang!Quote:
Originally Posted by RickD
Thats soccer though, Americans don't do soccer :) I know we won't ever get a team here, just sucks having to drive to DC/Baltimore to watch any games, can cost a pretty penny even before gas prices went through the roof.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuzzy62
I'd imagine that making a stadium dual use after the fact would be a rather difficult undertaking. It wasn't designed at all for baseball, so I have no idea what sorts of modification would be required to make it suitable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alloutwar
IIRC he was talking about moving the Twins to the Greensboro/Winston Salem area (the Triad). The Triad is about 100 or so miles north of Charlotte and a 100 or so west of Raleigh. The Raleigh area is known as the Triangle, while Charlotte is known as an Atlanta wannabee. Beaver's thinking was probably that he could draw from all three markets.Quote:
Originally Posted by EVEN11323
The only way a Charlotte-based team would play in the Panthers stadium would be as a stopgap measure while their own facility was being built. Multi-use stadiums are going the way of the dodo bird.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic Blast
1. Las Vegas
2. Mexico City
3. Cuba
San Juan might do well
1 has to be in the AL West...San Antonio, Portland, Salt Lake City...just please, God, not Las Vegas
the other one has to be an AL team too...to balance the leagues without the "lets move a team, and oh, why don't we just move my team" Bud Selig bullcrap of the last expansion...
The Northeast needs another team like I need a third eye. Boston, 2 in New York, Philly, Baltimore, and DC all have teams. The only city in the Northeast that might be capable of supporting a team--that doesn't already have at least one--is Buffalo. And Buffalo is a declining city and economy. Haven't we already seen that in Pittsburgh?
Don't give me this **** about Brooklyn, either. When the Dodgers were created in 18-whatever (I don't have the time or inclination right now to look up the exact date), Brooklyn wasn't part of New York. And despite the nostalgic longings of some (few) Brooklynites, Brooklyn is now fully a part of New York. Plus, could a third team in that area really compete with the Yankees and Mets?
The South is the fastest growing part of the country. Sitting here in Virginia, I'd love to see a team in Norfolk (the largest metropolitan area in the country without a major-league sports team), but we are too close to DC.
<<Total aside...when it comes to going to DC from VA to see the Nats, try the Nats Express bus...goes from Richmond right to Nationals Park, no parking cost or anything, for like $10 a person>>
I hate Charlotte. I don't know why but I really do. Probably because all of the major economic engines--banks, manufacturing, high-tech--that used to be here in the fair Commonwealth have been farmed out to Charlotte, a city without tradition or history. Oh, well...we lost the war and couldn't stay a national capital.
I'd personally suggest Nashville, Louisville (although probably too close to Cincy), Memphis, or New Orleans (probably not going to happen after Katrina, though). All of those are good up-and-coming cities, unlike the slowly atrophying Northeast.
The alternative would be to add 2 West Coast teams, but I think that's unlikely.
Much as I'd like to see it as an ethnic Quebecois, I don't think anyone will give Montreal another shot anytime soon.
San Juan? Travel costs through the roof, plus Hiram Bithorn just isn't a good enough stadium, it'd take serious work to bring that up to par.
Mexico? Um, security issues, anyone...
lol cubaQuote:
Originally Posted by JeepGuy63
I'm curious as to why not?Quote:
just please, God, not Las Vegas
Let's retract MLB if anything.
who,Quote:
Originally Posted by belial
AZ
TB
FLA
BALT
TOR
SEA
TEX
SD
SF
COL
MIL
HOU
You certainly cant contract KC, CINC, PIT those on owner issue
Fla, Baltimore
you are goning to contract a team that has won 2 WS in 5 years and has been in existance for less than 20? I dont know if you have looked lately but FLA is #2 in their division 6 games over .500 and 3 games out of the wildcard. PLEASE retract them so I can get 1 spot fuarter UP in the NL East and have a better shot at the WC. Ther ahve the same amount of WS rings as the Cubs, Indians, Mets, and Toronto and have MORE than Tampa, Montreal/Washington, Texas, Seattle, San diego, the Phillies, Brewers, Angels, Royals, astros, Rockies, and D-backs.
And baltimore.... you are going to get rid of a team that has been in existance since the START of the AL 100+ years ago. Come on, use your head.
I know we all despise what the owner has done to the Marlins but come on!!!
they have the same or most teams in terms of Championships and have been around longer than all but 2 of them?!?!?!?!
A good city to put a team for the AL west is Phoenix