Sports Mogul's Next Game

1. I want to control my bench and bullpen better. I want to use my key closer from inning 6 to completion to get the save cause hes that good.

Or I want a hitter to go in often cause he can hit the ball wall or a stealer to go in to ensure a run will score on a ground ball.

After playing and replaying several season I find it difficult to control the bench and get my closer in. when its a close game and my staff can keep it close I want them in their, dont want to have to redo the same game till it does as I want. even if he has been in 100 straight relief apperances its been done before.

Ok I forgot, I want to develop a player in the majors, his AAA or AA A season is done and I have brought him up. I want him in at the end of the game or when its a blow out to give him experience. and prevent injuries of my stars.

An option to be protective or develop the bench would be cool. Or Iron man to never take a guy out so he has every chance possible.

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Originally Posted by medieval

1. I want to control my bench and bullpen better.

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This is the reason we're adding fully interactive Play-By-Play this year. So you can watch the game and make these choices. You can even choose what pitches to throw and where.

This is a lot of work, but it's probably less than trying to make a computer program know as much about baseball strategy as a major league manager.

Clay

If you simulate a lot of seasons will there be a team strategy that will allow you a chance to challenge the records. Such that you play your starting rotation on short rest and have a high pitch count, to challenge the complete game records? or to have lower pitch counts to get your relief in to make records?

Just wondering if this part can be revamped a bit to give those that play 300 years of baseball a chance to compete against certain records.

I would like some genius to make a game that will allow me to manage a city or a country over a long period of time. the best I have seen so far is TROPICO, which allows the player to start in 1950 with an island like Cuba; what a superb economic and political model. But make it so that player can be mayor of NYC, or Prez of USA or some smaller country (which could be generated each game to have different resources available)

I voted for improving BBM. However what is not in the poll but would be fun is NASCAR Mogul. A team owner has to build a good pit crew, purchase a good car, engines, etc, hire a good driver, and crew chief while trying to secure a sponsor. It would be fun!

PLLLLEASSSEE!!! this company is getting back on track with bm and bmo. the last thing they need is to water down their efforts with another game. check out football mogul if you think they are ready to put out another game

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Originally Posted by Xen_Antares

I voted for improving BBM. However what is not in the poll but would be fun is NASCAR Mogul. A team owner has to build a good pit crew, purchase a good car, engines, etc, hire a good driver, and crew chief while trying to secure a sponsor. It would be fun!

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Interesting concept... are their any games like that out there?

FYI, Infogrames/Atari actually signed us up to make "Stock Car Mogul" (not licensed by "NASCAR"). But they bailed on the project halfway through. So we have some old "Stock Car Mogul" code lying around.

Clay

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Originally Posted by boomboom

for a basketball sim, i would love to see a NCAA basketball sim..not an NBA. I would love to be the coach, and recruit players, and try to win NCAA tour.....also, the more you win, the more money you get....and the more happy your school admins are....In a NCAA sim, It would have to be a mix between a coach and Adminastrater.

(pardon my spelling :) )

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HUGE fan of BBK06...what is the highest Mogul Rating out there...post screen shots. I want to see how I do compared to others. Also~ if any branching out is to be done...I agree with the above. NCAA Mogul would be very cool. Love the product....

*************Will Manny report today?************************

PRO WRESTLING MOGUL... nuff said

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Originally Posted by Northern Brave

Okay well having read through I agree with Leafs, hockey mogul would sell well especially if done similar to baseball mogul and with some good added in things... I've looked at EHM and just don't like it... too **** much that is the nice thing about Mogul... easy to use and good to go right from the start... always a selling feature. There is such a thing as too much. It's like BM vs OOTP....

Now the other notion much like basketball is the lack of a database...

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Your Hockey Database sir...

http://www.hockeydb.com

And I do believe they license. More complete than Lahman in terms of minor league content even... Though the data is not as well organised.

If Mogul could work their magic with hockey, including a statistically based sim and historical play/drafts, I would SOOOO abbandon EHM and it's massive poorly researched opinion based DB...

I agree...and EHM takes forever to play....takes 5 hours to do a whole season if not more! I love the depth of it, but crave the speed and simplicity that mogul would bring to it. I would pay just as much for hockey mogul (provided it had drafting and the minor leagues setup) as EHM...in a second.

Boxing Mogul!!

The OOTP game does not have a true management/role play aspect . . .even though they've promised it for like five years.

NHL Eastside Hockey Manager needs Fast Mode to make the game go faster!
Basketball Mogul because SI isn't going to be making a Basketball game and Total Pro Basketball only has the NBA as a league and no ther Licenses,doesn't allow you to sim 365 days a year so you have the full Offseason,you can't Control Developement league team,you have to be in Commissiner Mode in Offseason meaning computer control teams can't make any trades and so on! But you can move teams to other cities in a flash!
World Basketball Manager might have it allow but don't know if it's made anymore!
NBALIVE doesn't count! It does has live play by play that's the only good thing about it!

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Originally Posted by dolfanar

Your Hockey Database sir...

http://www.hockeydb.com

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Very complete in terms of players, but I don't see more than 4 stats (Games, Goals, Assists, Penalty Minutes) for non-goalies.

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Originally Posted by Clay Dreslough

Very complete in terms of players, but I don't see more than 4 stats (Games, Goals, Assists, Penalty Minutes) for non-goalies.

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The other option is something like the Total Sports Encyclopedia which was out a few years ago (I have a copy...), which includes +/- and i believe shots on goal, but is a hard copy. Even hockeydb has +/- if you go to the team pages http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/csl.php?tid=50

But when it comes right down to it, those ARE the only tangible stats that have been tracked for hockey for any length of time.

In baseball you have things like doubles, triples, at bats, etc... And they have *real* meaning, in Hockey it really comes down to the big 4.

A few years ago, there was a great management sim called World Hockey Manager that basically had 4 abilities for every player: scoring, Passing, Defense and Aggression, which were ofcourse based on the big four stats (G, A, PIM, +/-). The game was fast to sim, and statistically WAY more accurate than EHM (where a playmaker like Peter Forsberg regularly scores 40-50 goals despite NEVER scoring more than 30 in his career in a full season...)

Hockey Mogul, atleast to start, would need only get those 4 ratings down, before beginning to worry about things like Time on ice, faceoff %, etc... In any event, if I find a better DB, I'll post it here, but for hockey I seriously doubt any of those other stats have been kept for more than the last 10 years or so...

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default..._databases.htm

Also has Basketball. No idea about these guy's, and the software to view the data is a bit buggy...

Not that this will help much, but there was a rating driven hockey simulator called Hockey League Simulator that I play in the very late 80s/early 90s (and they made a graphical hockey game called Wayne Gretzky Hockey II, both by Bethesda, that could import games from the sim). It had ratings like checking, puck control, shot power, shot accuracy, speed, passing, endurance, injury, penalty, and maybe toughness and some others. It's very old now, but seemed pretty solid and maybe a nice reference point for a mogul sim.

I realize it doesn't help with what the ratings of current players should be, but does give an idea of what ratings could be used.

Just my 2 cents, I'm not a big hockey fan, but I enjoyed that sim.

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Originally Posted by dolfanar

The other option is something like the Total Sports Encyclopedia which was out a few years ago (I have a copy...), which includes +/- and i believe shots on goal, but is a hard copy. Even hockeydb has +/- if you go to the team pages http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/csl.php?tid=50

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Thanks for pointing out the team pages. Having +/- and also the positions is a big improvement IMHO over the other pages.

Clay

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Originally Posted by Clay Dreslough

Thanks for pointing out the team pages. Having +/- and also the positions is a big improvement IMHO over the other pages.

Clay

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Np. The other link i gave you has additional data like Power Play and Short handed goals and shots on goal, but as I said, their client software is really buggy :p

I know hockey isnt that popular in the US but id definatly try a hockey game. I do really like the idea i heard here of an airline game.

How about making it so u can get players from around the world like latin america and japan??? Id like that better.

I'm not sure if this was mentioned before.

A college football sim would be very cool.

what about a college baseball game? you already have a base engine from baseball mogul so yeah.

my personal preference would be a career mode baseball game, sortof like itp baseball by ottp....but much better, cuz clay would make it.Start from high school and go all the way until you get to become a manager...and incorporate baseball mogul leagues into it. thatd be awesome.

I would like to see a soccer (football) sim game using the same general ideas and concepts as BBM. I can see some obvious problems: (1) the competition is very strong (Football Manager); (2) soccer by its nature isn't as stat intensive as baseball; and (3) the fan base is probably more knowledgeable about the sport/players than Sports Mogul. The soccer sim games primarily use subjective ratings (along with the few obvious statistics that apply) to track and evaluate player performance, so I'm not sure how well BBM would translate. However, the player career models, scouting, management, training, finances, etc, would seem to translate quite well. Finding good stats for most leagues is difficult (unless you have some knowledge of the local language) and giving the subjective ratings is an art more than a science (e.g., Football Manager seems to have employed people in many countries just to help gather data and assign player ratings). It would be really cool if it was possible to do someday.

I voted for Completely overhaul Baseball Mogul (new graphics, engine, etc.)
best solution in my opinion would be to combine BBMO with BBM. Make the online service a value added addition to normal baseball mogul, and switch the interface to be more HTML technology oriented, you know?

I used to be a big fan of windows programming "to the bare metal", using straight C/C++ and windows API calls. In the last couple of years though, .net has really won me over. ...not that I have much time for real projects reacently, but you know.
:)

I love BBM6, and i would vote AGAINST an overall of BBM.
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
You would turn off a lot of the old faithful BBM fans, {including myself} by doing a major overhaul.

I would love some sort of non-sports sim game, i like the newspaper and airline ideas mentioned by previous people. A game as a sales manager would be fun to, running a staff, hiring new sales people, dealing with constructing a compensation program, etc.

Basketball mogul would be fun. If you did do that, hiring of the coaching staff should be a bigger part of the game because there are so few players to deal with. You should also include the developmental league to.

How bout a college basketball game with recruiting and hiring assistants, Dealing with school administration etc.

As for a soccer sim, there is an amazingly wonderful soccer sim i played back in college called something like Soccer Manager.

I pick overhaul but i'd really like to see a college baseball game.

Plus with doing a college baseball game you already have an engine built so you just need to tweak it and add some features that are college orinatied and take out the pro stuff(like FA, Trades, etc.)

A college basketball game would be cool.

So would College football but that would probably require a overhaul of the FBM engine and some changes as well.

who the **** is bumping all of these old threads?

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

who the **** is bumping all of these old threads?

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one of those. Gonna guess mg...

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Most users ever online was 484, 04-04-2008 at 08:47 PM.
200tang , BenFink , bluechez3 , BOSdynasty4life , CCamels73 , Chitownhero14 , daves , Dyzalot , eggson27 , etothep , ewing6 , filihok , free2131 , gosensgo101 , gRYFYN1 , HoustonGM , Jeffy25 , metsguy234 , OregonDuck1989 , President , ragecage , rockiesfan4ever , TheBest21 , YEAH DAAAAWG

one of those. Gonna guess mg...

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that's what I did, looked and will keep looking when I notice an influx of new bumps from 05

I vote drive-by Josh

inb4 Josh takes a pic to prove his innocence.

we need a sm dectective to get on the case

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Originally Posted by BenFink

I vote drive-by Josh

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That. It wouldn't be hard to vote, and then log off.

At the same time, maybe Clay or Dee can have all polls automatically close after a certain amount of time.

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Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP

At the same time, maybe Clay or Dee can have all polls automatically close after a certain amount of time.

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Oh yeh, they could do that. It would make all too much sense for them to do that. But you know what? I'm going to tell you why they will never do that. Why won't "the Dresloughs," as they like to call themselves, ever have automatically closing polls on here? Because, in fact, it is Clay AND Dee who are drive-by voting in these old polls and having automatically closing polls would rid them of this, their only, guilty pleasure in this game that we call life

Case Closed

Here he is, the new SM Detective!

It was Josh. I suspect it either is still all Josh, or now both Josh and metsguy.