Depressing News Item of the Day

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Originally Posted by Alloutwar

One-third did not have the main item on the label at all. 60% had filler, or something else not indicated on the label - posing a serious health or allergy risk. Some of those had the original item - and just a ton of other crap not listed.



the video at the 2min to 2:30 mark mentions this - 1/3rd had none of the product, 60% were 'adulterated' with unlabelled items. Obviously there's some crossover between the two.

So the results are like
<= 40% were 100% right
60% were adulterated in some way
~33% had none of the named/marketed item at all

Pretty scary if you are considering buying those supplements, or currently take them

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agreed. and it doesn't go into some of the concerning side effects that the "healthy" items they have omitted are presumed by some to have. Many of these vitamins/herbs are genetically modified to enhance their performance. I had a cousin last week trying to get me to drink an energy drink which was supposedly the best thing since sliced break, did not have any caffeine or sugar, pretty much a large dose of B12 obtained from many of the "all natural" products. Unfortunately a little research showed some of the products used in that drink to give it taste and 'umph' were created while trying to perfect insecticides. Yeah, sounds yummy.

So I've been taking food, exercise, and health as my first priority the past few weeks...I have a 7 pound drop to show for it, and I placed in the playoffs in tennis, so I was happy. Then I start reading up on the food angle, to improve that side as well. A few Netflix documentaries later, I saw this:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...s-exposure-bpa

So chemicals have been experimented with large scale since the '40s...a lot of these make it into our foods, some wrapping or packaging, others as preservatives, colors, etc. So in the span of a few generations, we've gone from pretty much naturally occurring things in our umbilical cords, to over 200 chemicals. That's chemicals like plastic and man-made stuff, going into our newborns' bodies and assaulting their weak, developing organs.

Allergies, autism, ADD and ADHD...it almost makes sense now, why these things have skyrocketed in 30-40 years. The unnatural crap we eat contains toxins...these toxins stick around in us, and we pass them on to the next generation, screwing them over exponentially more - before they're even born.

Ugh. Maybe when I adopt, I can adopt from a primitive culture that will only have minimal exposure to all this. Blech.

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Originally Posted by Alloutwar

Ugh. Maybe when I adopt, I can adopt from a primitive culture that will only have minimal exposure to all this. Blech.

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Your future child thanks you for taking them out of a non-toxic culture into a toxic one.

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Originally Posted by filihok

Your future child thanks you for taking them out of a non-toxic culture into a toxic one.

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Well, I'm sure they will think that not starving to death or being killed by Cholera will make up for it.

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Originally Posted by free2131

Well, I'm sure they will think that not starving to death or being killed by Cholera will make up for it.

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Just what 'primitive culture' do you think AOW is adopting from?
And why do you assume that an individual would prefer the risk of getting cancer to the risk of cholera?

AOW seems the kind of dude if he were to adopt, adopt someone from an impoverished state and that would only be a plus for a child to go from that to where AOW is.

I feel icky for being nice now. Excuse me while I go shower.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

AOW seems the kind of dude if he were to adopt, adopt someone from an impoverished state and that would only be a plus for a child to go from that to where AOW is.

I feel icky for being nice now. Excuse me while I go shower.

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Not according to filicock. That dude is just a dick. No matter what anyone posts dude tries to **** all over it! Cure for AIDS? forget about it you're exploiting animals. Adopting kids from 3rd world countries? Forget about it you're giving them cancer. Jeez! Lighten up man!

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Originally Posted by Cubbie

Not according to filicock. That dude is just a dick. No matter what anyone posts dude tries to **** all over it! Cure for AIDS? forget about it you're exploiting animals. Adopting kids from 3rd world countries? Forget about it you're giving them cancer. Jeez! Lighten up man!

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I actually kinda agree (not being a dick part, but lightening up). I'm not sure if he is arguing just for the sake of it, or if that is really how he feels. I don't really understand it. Would you rather AOW overpopulate the earth further or take someone already born into a bad situation to make for a better life?

Overpopulating the earth with AOW spawn, even worse than normal overpopulation. :p

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Originally Posted by filihok

Just what 'primitive culture' do you think AOW is adopting from?
And why do you assume that an individual would prefer the risk of getting cancer to the risk of cholera?

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http://www.ynaija.com/wp-content/upl...ving-Child.jpg

"Gee, I'm so glad AOW didn't adopt me and risk me eating something non-organic. That just wouldn't be good for my health AT ALL."

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...0_1175607c.jpg

"Boy, can you believe that AOW wanted to adopt me? Thank god he didn't. I wouldn't get to enjoy this wonderful drinking water that probably contains fecal matter. Our lives are SO much better here."

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Originally Posted by ragecage

I actually kinda agree (not being a dick part, but lightening up). I'm not sure if he is arguing just for the sake of it, or if that is really how he feels. I don't really understand it. Would you rather AOW overpopulate the earth further or take someone already born into a bad situation to make for a better life?

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Whenever I read a post by fili, this is always the first thing that pops in my head.

Here's today's contribution to this thread
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/13/op...it_th_20131213

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/job...-nannies/7811/

maybe not depressing, but noteworthy......

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Originally Posted by Cubbie

Not according to filicock. That dude is just a dick.

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Your obsession with my genitalia is completely understandable, but it does make me a bit uncomfortable.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

I actually kinda agree (not being a dick part, but lightening up). I'm not sure if he is arguing just for the sake of it, or if that is really how he feels. I don't really understand it. Would you rather AOW overpopulate the earth further or take someone already born into a bad situation to make for a better life?

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I just found the juxtaposition of AOW's statements interesting.
PART 1) The food in America has all kinds of **** in it
PART 2) I want to adopt a kid from a place that doesn't have this **** in it and bring them to America where the food has **** in it.

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Originally Posted by free2131

"Gee, I'm so glad AOW didn't adopt me and risk me eating something non-organic. That just wouldn't be good for my health AT ALL."

"Boy, can you believe that AOW wanted to adopt me? Thank god he didn't. I wouldn't get to enjoy this wonderful drinking water that probably contains fecal matter. Our lives are SO much better here."

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That's one example of a "primitive culture".

But that's kind of like the comparison that comes up between the US and Somalia on occasion when regulations are mentioned.

Not every 'primitive culture' is in squalor and abject poverty.

todays depressing news item has to be remembrance of the tragedy of a year ago today. prayers go out for all those effected :(

NC Senator Bob Rucho uses twitter to compare Obama to Nazis, terrorists, etc

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“Justice Robert’s (sic) pen & Obamacare has (sic) done more damage to the USA then (sic) the swords of the Nazis,Soviets & terrorists combined.”

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As of today he stands by his tweet as 'the truth'

Totally keeping a cool head about political BS. Thanks, senator from my state...

I believe the great Senator from NC is correct as to the SUFFERING that has been INFLICTED upon the middle class with this new law of the land starting in 2014. With each passing week more and more Americans are in agreement with the Senator. However it may not be until 2016 that you as well will be affected by the new law.

Even if I concede that public opinion has dropped a few points around the law (not surprising considering the fear, ignorance and misinformation being tossed), is there any cause at all to liken it to genocide? Doesn't that kind of make the debate idiotic?

This just reminds me of spoiled brat children. If one thing is forced on them, or restricted from them, suddenly they have the worst parent EVER, and they are being TORTURED. Get over it, holy hell. If there are legitimate concerns with the healthcare act, you have to pull up your pants and admit it's not an effing Gulag before we can take you seriously.

http://www.kutv.com/news/features/po.../vid_697.shtml

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According to the survey, 43% say they oppose the health care law because it is too liberal, with 15% saying they give the measure a thumbs down because it is not liberal enough.

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So if you are counting, the lowest approval ever so far goes like this:

35% straight in favor
15% think it DOESNT GO FAR ENOUGH (as in, no single-payer solution, etc)
43% straight opposed

So 50% or more of the country STILL supports this law as a MINIMUM - many of them prefer even more liberal reform. This is after a terribly botched rollout and what, almost 5 straight years of direct misinformation (death panels, etc). And there STILL isn't a majority against it. It's kind of laughable.

Once medical costs actually start shrinking, and people come face to face with the overwhelming benefits they get, this is going to get funny. Republicans are going to have to find a way to say they didn't really oppose it all that much...and I'd bet my life savings that Fox News will be running something around Republican credit for some of it somewhere around 2016-2017.

lol @ 'suffering inflicted'. I've seen first-hand the suffering inflicted by sh*tty insurance companies for over a decade, while people rot and die of their curable (but expensive) conditions. To compare a buggy website or mandated coverage to the pain and death in the name of profits that our healthcare system has delivered for over 30 years is despicable, and you should be ashamed.

The news is reporting that Santa Claus is currently over Africa.

Depressing that an institution (idealistically) based on providing unbiased information is propagating religion.

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Originally Posted by Alloutwar

Even if I concede that public opinion has dropped a few points around the law (not surprising considering the fear, ignorance and misinformation being tossed), is there any cause at all to liken it to genocide? Doesn't that kind of make the debate idiotic?

This just reminds me of spoiled brat children. If one thing is forced on them, or restricted from them, suddenly they have the worst parent EVER, and they are being TORTURED. Get over it, holy hell. If there are legitimate concerns with the healthcare act, you have to pull up your pants and admit it's not an effing Gulag before we can take you seriously.

http://www.kutv.com/news/features/po.../vid_697.shtml


So if you are counting, the lowest approval ever so far goes like this:

35% straight in favor
15% think it DOESNT GO FAR ENOUGH (as in, no single-payer solution, etc)
43% straight opposed

So 50% or more of the country STILL supports this law as a MINIMUM - many of them prefer even more liberal reform. This is after a terribly botched rollout and what, almost 5 straight years of direct misinformation (death panels, etc). And there STILL isn't a majority against it. It's kind of laughable.

Once medical costs actually start shrinking, and people come face to face with the overwhelming benefits they get, this is going to get funny. Republicans are going to have to find a way to say they didn't really oppose it all that much...and I'd bet my life savings that Fox News will be running something around Republican credit for some of it somewhere around 2016-2017.

lol @ 'suffering inflicted'. I've seen first-hand the suffering inflicted by sh*tty insurance companies for over a decade, while people rot and die of their curable (but expensive) conditions. To compare a buggy website or mandated coverage to the pain and death in the name of profits that our healthcare system has delivered for over 30 years is despicable, and you should be ashamed.

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That's it. Though it's been 10 years since I worked in the medical field, I do know as going through some health issues, before this law was passed, the healthcare system has been a huge joke as it was. Why anyone would be ok with status quo is beyond me. I haven't done any research on it, because I havent had issues in the last few years, but how could it possibly be any worse than what it was?

The video shows you can't fix poverty by giving 1 million people a free ticket to the USA every year ... what a crock that program is in the grand scheme of the total problem.

A real eye opener to finish off the year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v...layer_embedded

In fact the conclusion is that our government actually makes things worse.

If your hometown is thinking of applying fot the Olympics...
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...test-terrorism

Another online scam surfaces...an oh-so-plausible one, too...beware!
https://wm.shaw.ca/zimbra/public/lau...d=en_US&full=1

How about those tree hugging liberal global warming scientists who are stuck in the ice! Poetic justice! Even worse than Obamacare, is the liberal scam about global warming that the media has indoctrined onto the sheep for years.

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Originally Posted by Cubbie

How about those tree hugging liberal global warming scientists who are stuck in the ice! Poetic justice! Even worse than Obamacare, is the liberal scam about global warming that the media has indoctrined onto the sheep for years.

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Even more depressing is that some people who consider themselves politically astute are so stupid that they think that getting warmer means it can't get cold.

Even more depressing than that is that some people are such absolute jackasses that they are actually happy about the misfortune of others.

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Originally Posted by Cubbie

How about those tree hugging liberal global warming scientists who are stuck in the ice! Poetic justice! Even worse than Obamacare, is the liberal scam about global warming that the media has indoctrined onto the sheep for years.

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Hi, my name is Cubbie and I don't understand how climate works

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Originally Posted by Kobie

Hi, my name is Cubbie and I don't understand how climate works

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Derp. Scientists say that the Earth's north pole is tiliting back toward the sun but today is colder than yesterday. Obama suckz1

I sometimes wonder what kinda person could be ignorant enough to vote for Obama? Then I visit this forum and it all becomes clearer! Mostly I feel bad for you guys though. You've been spoonfed the lies so long you just eat it up. The government loves sheep like you. So easy to be controlled by the media and so gulliable. Well here's a little lesson for you guys on the global warming hoax. You guys might want to turn off all that liberal media that has been brain washing you!


http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/caruba/130922

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Originally Posted by Cubbie

How about those tree hugging liberal global warming scientists who are stuck in the ice! Poetic justice! Even worse than Obamacare, is the liberal scam about global warming that the media has indoctrined onto the sheep for years.

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You really are a true caricature.

Chris Christie's staff was responsible for the traffic closures that led to severe issues in the town of a politician that did not endorse him for re-election.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/chris-c...ndal-1.2490021

Not good for the Repubs' top presidential contender in 2016.

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Originally Posted by Alloutwar

Chris Christie's staff was responsible for the traffic closures that led to severe issues in the town of a politician that did not endorse him for re-election.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/chris-c...ndal-1.2490021

Not good for the Repubs' top presidential contender in 2016.

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Agreed but I think it'll blow over. Afterall, the IRS being used to target conservative groups seeking non-exempt status has pretty much disappeared into the, "nothing here to see, move along" category. Unless a direct link can be made to Christie, his actions to hold those on his staff accountable will be spun and may actually reinforce the straight shooter no-nonsense image he has tried to manifest.

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Originally Posted by Cubbie

I sometimes wonder what kinda person could be ignorant enough to vote for Obama? Then I visit this forum and it all becomes clearer! Mostly I feel bad for you guys though. You've been spoonfed the lies so long you just eat it up. The government loves sheep like you. So easy to be controlled by the media and so gulliable. Well here's a little lesson for you guys on the global warming hoax. You guys might want to turn off all that liberal media that has been brain washing you!

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Are you the kind of person who draws conclusions based on zero evidence?
Who have you voted for?
I've never voted for Obama

I largely agree with Dickay on Christie's issue, but found this interesting:

http://thinkprogress.org/home/2014/0...ired-vendetta/

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But while Christie claimed that this was “not the way this administration has conducted itself over the last four years” and denied being a bully, accusations ofpolitical retribution have long surrounded the governor. For instance, former Gov. Richard Codey (D) accused the Christie administration of “sending a message” by denying him state trooper protection after he publicly disagreed with Christie. The same day, a Codey cousin was fired from his position at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and a former Codey aide was removed from the New Jersey Office of Consumer Affairs.
After then State Sen. Sean Kean (R) told a reporter that Christie erred in not calling for a state of emergency sooner, during a 2010 blizzard, Christie’s staff banned Kean from attending the next news conference Christie held in Kean’s home district. A Christie aide told the Star-Ledger that Kean “got what he deserved.” Rutgers Professor Alan Rosenthal saw his state funding slashed after backing a re-districting map more favorable to Democrats and last year, confirmation of a judicial candidate recommended by State Sen. Christopher “Kip” Bateman (R) suddenly stalled after the legislator voted against Christie’s public medical education system reorganization.
On Thursday, the U.S. Attorney for New Jersey announced that he would be opening up another investigation into the lane closings, joining the state legislature and the inspector general of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, who are conducting investigations of their own.

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So either a) this is modus operandi from his administration, or b) he hires and surrounds himself with terrible people and manages them incompetently.

Ugh.

You should stop eating shrimp. Forever.

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As for health risks, Richardson says that most shrimp is not inspected by the FDA. In fact, when researchers tested imported ready-to-eat shrimp, they found 162 separate varieties of bacteria with resistance to 10 different antibiotics.

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Farmed shrimp are kept in pools on the coast, where the tide can refresh the water and carry waste out to sea. Ponds are prepared with heavy doses of chemicals such as urea, superphosphate, and diesel. Then the shrimp receive pesticides, antibiotics (some that are banned in the U.S., but used overseas), piscicides (fish-killing chemicals like chlorine), sodium tripolyphosphate, borax, and caustic soda.

Shrimp farmers have destroyed an estimated 38 percent of the world’s mangroves to create shrimp ponds, and the damage is permanent. Not only do the mangroves not return long after production has ended, but the surrounding areas become wastelands. According to a Yale University research paper, shrimp farming has made certain areas of Bangladesh completely unlivable for people: “The introduction of brackish-water shrimp aquaculture… has, in turn, caused massive depeasantization and ecological crisis throughout the region.”

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wild shrimp isn’t a better option because it usually involves the use of deep-sea trawlers, which kills 5 to 20 pounds of “bycatch” (unwanted species of fish accidentally scooped up by the trawler’s net) for every pound of shrimp. Trawling is comparable to bulldozing an entire section of rainforest to catch a single species of bird. “[The bycatch] includes sharks, rays, starfish, juvenile red snapper, sea turtles and more. While shrimp trawl fisheries only represent 2 percent of the global fish catch, they are responsible for over one-third of the world’s bycatch.” Then the bycatch gets tossed over the side of the boat.

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Shrimp is the first seafood to be crossed off my list on the way to vegetarian-ism...aside from all the stuff I already don't eat (clams, oysters, squid, calamari - or bung)

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and a taste test showed that switching rectums for calamari might indeed go undetected.

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Glad I never liked shrimp to begin with.

I love shrimp and will continue to eat them.
I've pretty much given up hope this world ever being non-toxic to the masses or for reasonable treatment for animals.


On an unrelated note.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/19/world/...-dolphin-hunt/

http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marb...facts-snowpack

Yeah it is totally cold on the east coast. No Global Warming right? Think again. I'm really tired of the narrative of just because it is weally weally cowld, that global warming doesn't exist. It is intellectually dishonest to think we are just peachy.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marb...facts-snowpack

Yeah it is totally cold on the east coast. No Global Warming right? Think again. I'm really tired of the narrative of just because it is weally weally cowld, that global warming doesn't exist. It is intellectually dishonest to think we are just peachy.

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Another brainwashed liberal! Free yourself from the liberal media global warming hoax! Educate yourself.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterfer...nted-hysteria/

loller - educate yourself with this one, slanted view from known industry insiders, funded by the heartland institute?!?!? looooool

http://www.desmogblog.com/2013/09/24...nder-solutions

http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/2...dibility-test/

Credibility fail

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Originally Posted by Alloutwar

loller - educate yourself with this one, slanted view from known industry insiders, funded by the heartland institute?!?!? looooool

http://www.desmogblog.com/2013/09/24...nder-solutions

http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/2...dibility-test/

Credibility fail

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Talking about credibility fail while posting articles from slanted liberal media is an epic fail.



There are over a million articles disproving global warming as a hoax. Scientists themselves have admitted they lied about it, yet you continue to drink the kool-aid.
http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wor...steria-to-end/

Speaking of credibility fail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climati...il_controversy