2011 NFL Talk Thread

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

Rookie quarterbacks are often babied their rookie year into checkdown routes and the safe throw. Taught that so they can learn the speed of the new level without throwing 22 INTs their rookie year. A lot of true freshman QBs in college are handled the same way. Doesn't mean they suck.

Usually, you give a QB 3 starting seasons before saying a QB "ain't great". Because by then he should have full control of the offense, the playbook, and should break out.

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I'm saying that he "ain't great" because a ton of media members are acting like he's Peyton Manning or something.

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Originally Posted by Coach Owens

I'm saying that he "ain't great" because a ton of media members are acting like he's Peyton Manning or something.

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Signed,
Butthurt Seahags Fan

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Originally Posted by etothep

Signed,
Butthurt Seahags Fan

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+1

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Originally Posted by etothep

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Uh, no. I'm just not one of these people who get completely blinded by hype like a lot of people are. The same thing happened with Andy Dalton as this last draft got closer. People start forgetting about the bad things and start believing that they're perfect players.

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Originally Posted by Coach Owens

Uh, no. I'm just not one of these people who get completely blinded by hype like a lot of people are. The same thing happened with Andy Dalton as this last draft got closer. People start forgetting about the bad things and start believing that they're perfect players.

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No, we get it. You're not a sheep like the rest of us. We submit to your obviously overwhelming superior knowledge.

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Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG

No, we get it. You're not a sheep like the rest of us. We submit to your obviously overwhelming superior knowledge.

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Would you stop putting words in my mouth? Jesus.

CO's mom wants you guys to stop picking on him. It isn't nice.

Look, all I'm saying is that I'm not ready to anoint Bradford as the next Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. I saw him make a lot of rookie mistakes last year like staring down receivers, trying to throw the ball into tight windows that led to interceptions, etc. I'm sure he'll be better next year, but I don't think the Rams are all of a sudden going to win 10 games, especially with the schedule they have. I honestly do think that Steven Jackson may start wearing down. He's nearing the age where RBs tend to, he's a power back and he has had some injuries during his career. Also, I do want to point out that I believe that the Rams will win the NFC West. I just don't think that they're going to win 10 games.

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Originally Posted by Coach Owens

Look, all I'm saying is that I'm not ready to anoint Bradford as the next Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. I saw him make a lot of rookie mistakes last year like staring down receivers, trying to throw the ball into tight windows that led to interceptions, etc. I'm sure he'll be better next year, but I don't think the Rams are all of a sudden going to win 10 games, especially with the schedule they have. I honestly do think that Steven Jackson may start wearing down. He's nearing the age where RBs tend to, he's a power back and he has had some injuries during his career. Also, I do want to point out that I believe that the Rams will win the NFC West. I just don't think that they're going to win 10 games.

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Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG

No, we get it. You're not a sheep like the rest of us. We submit to your obviously overwhelming superior knowledge.

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And thanks for breaking down the film for us noobs.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

And thanks for breaking down the film for us noobs.

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Again, I never said that I was superior to anybody, nor did I say that any of you guys were "sheep". I was saying why I, personally, don't believe the recent hype that Bradford is getting because it happens all the time. Unfortunately some sports reporters automatically think that they're also analysts and it leads a lot of bad opinions being read by a lot of people.

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Originally Posted by Coach Owens

Again, I never said that I was superior to anybody, nor did I say that any of you guys were "sheep". I was saying why I, personally, don't believe the recent hype that Bradford is getting because it happens all the time. Unfortunately some sports reporters automatically think that they're also analysts and it leads a lot of bad opinions being read by a lot of people.

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Even with that, he still is the best QB in that craptastic division.

On another note, I really like that pick Oakland made today. If anything for the comical material it produces.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

Even with that, he still is the best QB in that craptastic division.

On another note, I really like that pick Oakland made today. If anything for the comical material it produces.

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I'll agree with that.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

Even with that, he still is the best QB in that craptastic division.

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I think Kolb will put up the better numbers, whether he ends up being a better QB or not I have no idea. I do think Bradford is over-hyped as is Kolb. I think this division will be much improved, although thats not saying much.

Terrell Thomas out for the season with an ACL injury. That's a big blow for that Giants defense.

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Originally Posted by MichelleWie

I think Kolb will put up the better numbers, whether he ends up being a better QB or not I have no idea. I do think Bradford is over-hyped as is Kolb. I think this division will be much improved, although thats not saying much.

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Possibly, just based on what we know I think Bradford is clearly better right now.