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6 teams have no playoff appearances since 2001...the Orioles, Royals, Pirates, Blue Jays, Nationals and.... well, looks like you left off the Dodgers with 4 appearances, so, it's 5 teams with no playoff appearances.Quote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
Can you guess what 4 of those 5 teams have all had in common for most of that time?
It tells me that the mets really really really really really....really suck. For all those resources, its very hard to believe they've been this sh!tty.Quote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
Poor management I would guess. Yeah I forgot to jot down the Dodgers. Oops.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
The Orioles, Royals, Pirates and Blue Jays have all been stops in the career of Jose Antonio Bautista. Therefore, in order for my favourite team to reach the playoffs, we must (gulp) trade him?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
If that's what HGM was trying to say...that's pretty funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
It wasn't, but yes, that is funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
The OriLOLs, Royals, Pirates, and Nationals have been mostly under .500 in that time. Pretty hard to make the playoffs like that. Exceptions: Royals 83-79 in 2003, Expos (Wash): 83-79 in 2002, and 2003, and Nationals: 81-81 in 2005. The OriLOLs and Pirates have been under .500 every year in that time, and the Royals and Nationals have been under .500 in every other year except the exceptions mentioned. Meanwhile, the Jays have been under .500 in 5 of those 11 seasons, and would have to lose the rest of their games to finish under .500 this year, which might happen because the aforementioned Jose Bautista just got lifted with an injury after running into the OF wall chasing down an inside the park HR. The Jays have had 5 over .500 seasons and 2 80-82 seasons in the ten years prior to this one. Nonetheless, no f***ing playoffs. FML :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
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Get those playoff tickets ready OD.Quote:
Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989
I'm gonna send 10 to AOWQuote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
What a wonderful philanthropic gesture.Quote:
Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989
I figure if anyone deserves to watch some playoff baseball, it's the Red Sox fans that probably won't get to anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
Easy killer. They're still in the driver's seat with 3 games against Baltimore, while Tampa has 3 with the Yankee$. If they manage to turn it around, the Red Sux could also get hot in the playoffs because absolutely everything that can go wrong for them in September has gone wrong. Their challenge is to get it turned around in time, before it slips through their ham fists.Quote:
Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989
SOSH (sonsofsamhorn dot net) is quite the scene of carnage and apoplexy today, and has been throughout this collapse. Painful to watch...Sort of. It just makes me guffaw at this January 2nd, 2011 article on nesn dot com. I mean, how f***ing dumb can you be? Apparently dumb enough to make f***ing silly proclamations four months prior to Opening Day. Hahahahahahahah!!!
I am on my knees praying that the Phillies can be good the next three days and the Astros can suck.
I was on my knees with Rage's mom, but then something 'came up'
And here I thought she was at workQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeffy25
She wasQuote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...7825762145.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Kobie
We don't deserve to make the playoffs. While I still am hoping that we do, we will not have earned it at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffy25
Plus, I really hate the fact that I am rooting for the Yankees, but if the Red Sox collapse just like we might (will), then at least our collapse won't be the major news story during the offseason. Plus the Rays are like my third favorite team (behind the Orioles).
EDIT: Ha! How ironic is it that I'm rooting for the Yankees and Scott Proctor is the one who loses it for them? Did Cashman and Girardi not watch him at all with us?
God dammit.
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Originally Posted by HoustonGM
There's my answer to your question. #amiclose?Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
No. That the teams that haven't made the playoffs have, for the most part, had bad records is more-or-less obvious. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
It's that four of the five teams (save for the Blue Jays) have had utterly dysfunctional front offices for most of the decade. The Jays mostly just suffer from being in the AL East more than anything.
But, I'm not crying for the other four teams. They dug their own hole and continued to make it deeper.
Red Sox bullpen tonight: 8 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 5 BB, 8 K, 134 pitches, 84 strikes
*Tips Cap*
In a game where they absolutely had to have (not mathematically, but from a team morale standpoint) that level of performance, they got it. Awesome. That and Jacoby f***ing Ellsbury, who's a pretty damn good ballplayer.
I'd say it's ownership in all four cases that has held back these teams for most of the decade. It's only recently that the Royals, Pirates, Nationals, Orioles and even the Blue Jays have started investing huge amounts of dough on the amateur side of things which I think is eventually going to pay off, although it's one thing to draft them, but it also takes money to develop them. We'll see where these five are in 2015 or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Yes, include ownership with front office.Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
Point is...it's not because the evil Yankees and Red Sox spend a lot of money that keeps other teams from competing. It's that those other teams are ran incompetently.
So, who wants to bet that nobody will imply anything ever about the possibility of Jacoby Ellsbury having used steroids, even though he's hit more home runs this year than his entire professional career prior to this year?
Given two competently ran teams, I'd think the one with more money would win more often.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
That and giving their CFer steroids.
Or Granderson for that matter. No one ever game him 80 grade power before this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
OkQuote:
Originally Posted by filihok
Eh, I actually expected him to hit ~40 homers LAST year, moving from Detroit to Yankee Stadium. But, still, jumping from 30 to 41 wasn't ever seen has anything crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by haveacigar
They are playing a Yankee team that will probs be resting Jeter and a Yankee team without Jeter is basically the Royals.Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
Jose Bautista would like to speak with you regarding this matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I think it's perfectly fair to include ownership with the front office, since OWNERSHIP PAYS THE FRONT OFFICE. Teams that run things on the cheap do not get the best GMs, personnel directors, scouts, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Not to start mixing sports here, but as a Bills and Sabres fan (closer media-wise than to my Jays), it is blatantly obvious what happens when teams are run on the cheap. The Sabres now have an owner who has a ton of money and is willing to spend it, and now they're a favorite. The Bills seem to have caught lightning in a bottle the first few weeks, but the last decade has shown what happens when an owner is simply not willing to spend the money it takes to be a contender.
Those teams are ran incompetently because competent people to run those teams don't come cheap, and if you do find a diamond in the rough, one of the big spenders will snatch him away in a heartbeat.
Here's the deal. The main reason big-market teams are so successful is that one bad contract isn't going to cripple your organization for years, so you can afford to take some risks. Did the Kevin Brown deal work out for the Yankees? Would any other team have paid (and given up the No. 1 pick for) Rafael Soriano at his current deal? Would any other franchise be able to get three sub-par seasons from Jason Giambi?
The Vernon Wells contract killed Toronto for four years. The Yankees can shrug that off, because the Yankees have virtually unlimited resources. And the same goes for the Red Sox. I don't begrudge them for that, even though the sight of pinstripes makes me want to vomit. That's more due to the fact that Yankees fans, by and large, are insufferable assholes. And most Red Sox fans are nouveau riche twats who said for years that losing builds character, then displayed none of it once their team pulled its head out of its ass and hired baseball people to get baseball players.
However, I do think it's time for the unbalanced schedule to go. It's two leagues, not six divisions. Arbitrary geographic lines should not force a team like the Jays to play the Yankees, Red Sox and Rays 19 times apiece every year, and to play the Royals 8 times.
you lose....i'll imply it. i suspect all major leaguers of using illegal substances if necessary to gain an edge. maybe not roids. hgh, greenies, etc. surely the mad scientists somewhere have found ways to get around mlb tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Jacoby is young...it may just be he's grown into his frame, harnessed some power, and is finally settling in as a major league hitter. We'll see if he can sustain similar levels going forward. its not nearly as suspect as the Brady Anderson type of output...mid-career blowing up...but sure i see nothing wrong with questioning it.
You can bet your ass that no mainstream media member will be penning articles about it, a la Jose Bautista.Quote:
Originally Posted by dickay
And, saying it after I bring it up isn't really making me "lose." I'd wager that you weren't planning to make any such statements.
well, you'd win that wager. i didn't have an "plans" to make such a statement. i do think however it's something alot of fans have looked at with question personally. I've had water cooler discussion about it with other sox / yankee fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Or when the PED rumours start dying down because nobody can find anything untoward for now, you won't see any silly stories about some "man in white" relaying signals to Ellsbury and his teammates from the CF bleachers at Fenway. ;) :p :DQuote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Typical hyperbole from OD. OD sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989
Bautista's not a member of the Red Sox or Yankees. Ellsbury is. Red Sox and Yankees are all innocent until proven guilty. Players on teams other than the Red Sox and Yankees must be cheating if they're having breakout seasons. It's part of that "Book of Unwritten Rules" thingy. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobie