Things I learned from this video: Curt Schilling is a smart guy, I sure miss Boog calling Brave's games, and Barry Larkin is a ***** who had no idea what he was talking about.
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Things I learned from this video: Curt Schilling is a smart guy, I sure miss Boog calling Brave's games, and Barry Larkin is a ***** who had no idea what he was talking about.
Always liked Schilling. Love how he speaks his mind.
^ wut
Mets may be rebuilding in 2012. If this is true, how completely stupid was it to not trade Reyes? Surely they would have gotten more value out of him than they could have for the draft picks.
I don't know what that has to do with Reyes. They can still reduce payroll and go into a rebuilding phase with a Reyes extension.
What would be the point of signing Reyes when during his prime years of the contract you wouldn't be in contention? The most successful rebuilds still generally take around 3 to 4 years to come to fruition, and by that time Reyes' value will probably not be close to what it was the first few few years of the contract.
I don't think rebuilds really take 3 to 4 years anymore, certainly not with a team as well capitalized as the Mets. It's not like they're starting with a moribund situation.
Are they well capitalized though? The Eichhorn deal fell through and now they are talking about selling $30 MM chunks of ownership (which I agree with someone who wrote that no one will want to buy a share in the team without some input to how it's run). Personally I just feel that Mets would have gotten more value out of the players and the monetary savings they would have gotten by trading Reyes versus what they stand to gain by extending him.
No way. Yes, the Mets are in dire financial straits atm, but that's a franchise that can easily pull out of such a mess. Plus, given the concessions that MLB made for the Nationals (nee Expos), Dodgers and Rangers, you know they'll bail the Mets out and keep them viable at any turn. There's no reason to trade your absolute best player if there's a shot to keep him, and the Mets have FAR more than a shot. Reyes ain't going anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by free2131
They're talking in the article about shifting the payroll DOWN to $100 mil. I would consider any team rolling out a payroll at $100 mil as well capitalized.Quote:
Originally Posted by free2131
12 out of 30 teams had 100+ million payrolls in 2011.Quote:
Originally Posted by haveacigar
100 million is kind of medium
Well, if only 12 are 100 mil + and 18 aren't, isn't 100 mil solidly above average?Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
"Solidly", "slightly"...whateverQuote:
Originally Posted by haveacigar
Are you enjoying picking those nits?Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by haveacigar
A team with a 100 million payroll this season would be closer to the payroll of the lowest paid team than to either of the 2 highest paid teams.
4 teams were more than 1 standard deviation above the average 2011 MLB payroll
5 teams were more than 1 standard deviation below the average 2011 MLB payroll
A team with a 100 million payroll would be .2 standard deviations above the average 2011 MLB payroll
5 teams were more than 1 standard deviation above the median 2011 MLB payroll
4 teams were more than 1 standard deviation below the median 2011 MLB payroll
A team with a 100 million payroll would be .32 standard deviations above the average 2011 MLB payroll
$100 million is much closer to the average than the extremes.
*http://content.usatoday.com/sportsda.../salaries/team
So your argument is that they are not well capitalized? Being in the top 3rd of MLB payrolls seems pretty much within anyone's definition of well capitalized.
They wouldn't need to make significant cuts to get to a lower payroll either. The article mentioned the starting payroll of 147 mil, which includes the Beltran and KRod contracts that are already gone, and there's a lot of committed money to shitty ex players that come off the books. They could keep Reyes simply by giving him the extra money they were paying Oliver Perez, and they'd still be even with regards to everything else.
A $100 million payroll would not be in the top third. It would be in the middle third. Being in the middle third would certainly be within my definition of being closer to average than to the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by haveacigar
Does "closer to average than the top" mean "not well capitalized"?Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
I would say so.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
If someone is described as being 'well off' that doesn't make me think of an average income.
When you play in the largest market in the league, 'well capitalized' would mean something more than 'average', IMO
They're in the top 3rd right now, with all of the cuts that they are realistically going to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
This is what I was referring toQuote:
Originally Posted by haveacigar
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Originally Posted by haveacigar
Yeah I still would, and I think most people would too. If you don't want to, knock yourself out.
Most people believe an old dude with a beard lives in the sky and decides their life for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by haveacigar
I thought he had a killer goatee.Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
I wasn't really invoking argumentum ad populum. I wasn't supporting a fact.
Ay dios mio!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
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I wonder why people don't say that god should look more professional these days.
/observational humor
You clearly weren't supporting a fact since it is a fact that $100 million is pretty average. [insert smiley in an attempt to come across as less of a douche]Quote:
Originally Posted by haveacigar
Not working.
Don't actually care.Quote:
Originally Posted by haveacigar
get a room, you two
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/brewers/129244373.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Kobie
I think Prince looks good in that red shirt and cowboy hat. Nyjer in Beast Mode!! Magic # at 11. 28 years!!!!Quote:
At the suggestion of manager Ron Roenicke, most players bought cowboy hats, shirts, big belt buckles and boots to wear on the trip. Roenicke formerly coached for the Los Angeles Angels with Joe Maddon, now the Tampa Bay manager who often has organized "theme" travel wardrobes with his club.
"I like it," Roenicke said. "It's bonding and the humor. I was in San Antonio for a few years (in the minors). I bought stuff every once in a while there."
Anyone who knows the Brewers knows this is a fun-loving bunch, so when Roenicke suggested a theme, players quickly bought in. They went on a group shopping trip to a local Western store Friday, boosting sales considerably.
this is y we never have nice things
plus one. Ragecage suxQuote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
I wonder if Chris Carpenter wishes he could trade places with Ian Kennedy for this season?
Kennedy - 3.50 FIP, 3.60 xFIP, 3.8 fWAR, 7.73 K/9, 2.36 BB/9, 194.1 IP
Carpenter - 3.15 FIP, 3.37 xFIP, 4.0 fWAR, 7.25 K/9, 2.19 BB/9, 197.1 IP
Carpenter could probably have 18 wins, and Kennedy could possibly have 8.
That Brett Lawrie kid's pretty good. 2.1 fWAR and 2.3 rWAR so far has him tied for 5th with Ivan Nova, and tied for 4th with Ivan Nova in both categories respectively. The shocking thing about him so far for me is his defense. He looked really raw in spring training. He will always play it like a bull in a china shop, but he looks really good at 3B so far. All of this enthusiasm is of course tempered by the fact that he has yet to face anyone a second time except for Baltimore and Oakland. The A's handled him really well down in Oakland. The O's in Baltimore? Um, not so much. It'll be interesting to see what happens once he starts seeing a steady diet of offspeed stuff. So far he's murdered sliders, split finger fastballs, and fastballs, and been done in by changeups, cutters, and curve balls. Very limited sample size, but fun to watch nonetheless. Pineda, Ackley, and Hellickson are still my top three, but it will be interesting to see how the next 20+ games go. Part of me thinks that only those who've been around most of the season should get consideration for RotY, but the other part of me says value is value dammit.
stfu
Royals. Kinda decent next year? Maybe. Offense looks damn promising.
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by KowboyKoop