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Originally Posted by
actionjackson
A pylon is a defensive upgrade over Adam Dunn, so I would hope Morse is a significant improvement over Dunn at 1B. ;)
+1
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Justin Smoak - .254/.356/.482 138 OPS+
Todd Helton - .314/.391/.515 132 OPS+
lulz. hattpin' gmhmgm
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Originally Posted by
OregonDuck1989
Can't wait to buy HAC a broom.
Shoulda spent less time buying brooms and more time teaching your boys how to hit Verlander.
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Originally Posted by
CCamels73
I don't know how these stats translate to the advanced metrics, but it sure looks good.
His BABIP this year is super lucky, unless you think he's the next Ichiro - .353. As HGM pointed out as well, he's a well below average fielder, but if he can keep it up he's on pace for a 3/3.5 WAR season which would be above average but below 'star' level.
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Originally Posted by
haveacigar
Shoulda spent less time buying brooms and more time teaching your boys how to hit Verlander.
2 out of 3 ain't bad.
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Originally Posted by
Alloutwar
here's my team:
Brian McCann
Paul Konerko
Rickie Weeks
Adrian Beltre
Jose Reyes
Andrew McCutchen
Carlos Quentin
Adam Jones
Asdrubal Cabrera
Colby Rasmus
Adam Dunn
Carlos Gonzales
So offensively I picked up Quentin/Jones/Cabrera from the waiver wire (only 8 teams) and could part with any of them...but with Donkey's terrible season im inclined to go to him first.
Pitching:
James Shields
Trevor Cahill
Alexi Ogando
Huston Street
Kyle Farnsworth
Craig Kimbrel
Drew Storen
Jaime Garcia
Roy Halladay
Cliff Lee
Chris Carpenter
Andrew Bailey (DL)
I could also drop Carpenter, his season has totally sucked. The other 4 closers are all having good seasons (well, Street's ERA is high, but no biggie).
thoughts?
I'd probably sell high on Shields. But still, he has looked quite good this year, and that would only be if you could find somebody like Cliff Lee for him.
Dunn should turn it around, I still think he will.
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This league doesnt really trade, or else I would have moved one of the other 4 closers. It's pharmacists, so while 2 or 3 are really competitive with me at the top, the rest are goobers or don't check for months.
TY for the advice, but I'll keep Shields, I think it's more legit than Dunn's chance of resurging.
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Originally Posted by
Alloutwar
This league doesnt really trade, or else I would have moved one of the other 4 closers. It's pharmacists, so while 2 or 3 are really competitive with me at the top, the rest are goobers or don't check for months.
TY for the advice, but I'll keep Shields, I think it's more legit than Dunn's chance of resurging.
Yeah in a 8 team league it's probably okay to drop Dunn but I would drop Carpenter. I'm a big fan of streaming especially in an 8 team league. Pitching is devalued greatly in an 8 teamer. In my 8 team for example theirs always good pitching available. Guys like Norris, Gee, Burnett, Bedard, Wandy, Leake, etc are always floating around on the waiver wire. They are all good spot starters and have probably all been better than Carpenter this year. In this year of great pitching offense is at a premium thats why I would keep Dunn. What's up with Rasmus, I got him on my team too. He's been in a terrible slump. I was thinking about dropping him as I'm loaded at OF and I need an IF. It's between him and Tabata and Tabata has been better in almost every category.
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yah i've been surviving well on the pitching with carpenter sucking at 1-7, so i can probably dump him.
My offense has sucked all season, luckily its matchup so i can mix and match a bit. I like Rasmus, I think he'll even out fine. I'd keep him over Tabata.
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Originally Posted by
200tang
His BABIP this year is super lucky...
that may be, but in 300 big-league games and 909 plate appearances. He boasts a career .296 batting average, a .354 on-base percentage and .837 OPS.
what is his BABIP in those 300 games?
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Originally Posted by
CCamels73
that may be, but in 300 big-league games and 909 plate appearances. He boasts a career .296 batting average, a .354 on-base percentage and .837 OPS.
what is his BABIP in those 300 games?
His BABIP in those 300 career games is .349, and it's .355 this year, so you can tell 200tang to take those "super lucky" comments and shove 'em up his ass.
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Scoring question.
Guy on first base, pitcher throws a pick off to first and the guy breaks for second and he is fast enough to beat the first basemen's throw down to second.
Is this not recorded as a stolen base?
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Originally Posted by
Jeffy25
Scoring question.
Guy on first base, pitcher throws a pick off to first and the guy breaks for second and he is fast enough to beat the first basemen's throw down to second.
Is this not recorded as a stolen base?
Stolen base in my book
BTW, sorry for your loss jeffy
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Originally Posted by
Jeffy25
Scoring question.
Guy on first base, pitcher throws a pick off to first and the guy breaks for second and he is fast enough to beat the first basemen's throw down to second.
Is this not recorded as a stolen base?
I think it should be, yes
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Originally Posted by
Jeffy25
Scoring question.
Guy on first base, pitcher throws a pick off to first and the guy breaks for second and he is fast enough to beat the first basemen's throw down to second.
Is this not recorded as a stolen base?
I'm guessing it would be at the discretion of the official score-keeper for that particular game. But I'd imagine it'd get scored as a SB by almost anyone.
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Originally Posted by
actionjackson
His BABIP in those 300 career games is .349, and it's .355 this year, so you can tell 200tang to take those "super lucky" comments and shove 'em up his ass.
I don't think .355 is "super lucky," (when I think super lucky I think Austin Jackson last season) but I don't think Morse is a true talent .349 BABIP guy either. He'll decline somewhat, but he'll still be an average to above average player.
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Originally Posted by
haveacigar
I don't think .355 is "super lucky," (when I think super lucky I think Austin Jackson last season) but I don't think Morse is a true talent .349 BABIP guy either. He'll decline somewhat, but he'll still be an average to above average player.
BABIP for hitters is much more skill than it is for pitchers. So, .355 is absolutely "super lucky" for some players but not others. BABIP needs to be judged against a player's own base line (and Morse's career isn't really long enough to set an accurate baseline). That said, Ichiro's career BABIP is .354. Mike Morse is no Ichiro.
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Originally Posted by
CCamels73
i wasn't talking about his fielding stats translating, i should have made that more clear. the fielding is what it is, at least for now his defense at first base is a significant improvement over Adam Dunn and that is good!
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Originally Posted by
200tang
His BABIP this year is super lucky, unless you think he's the next Ichiro - .353. As HGM pointed out as well, he's a well below average fielder, but if he can keep it up he's on pace for a 3/3.5 WAR season which would be above average but below 'star' level.
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Originally Posted by
CCamels73
that may be, but in 300 big-league games and 909 plate appearances. He boasts a career .296 batting average, a .354 on-base percentage and .837 OPS.
what is his BABIP in those 300 games?
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Originally Posted by
actionjackson
His BABIP in those 300 career games is .349, and it's .355 this year, so you can tell 200tang to take those "super lucky" comments and shove 'em up his ass.
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Originally Posted by
haveacigar
I don't think .355 is "super lucky," (when I think super lucky I think Austin Jackson last season) but I don't think Morse is a true talent .349 BABIP guy either. He'll decline somewhat, but he'll still be an average to above average player.
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Originally Posted by
HoustonGM
BABIP for hitters is much more skill than it is for pitchers. So, .355 is absolutely "super lucky" for some players but not others. BABIP needs to be judged against a player's own base line (and Morse's career isn't really long enough to set an accurate baseline). That said, Ichiro's career BABIP is .354. Mike Morse is no Ichiro.
In other words, Mr. Camels, nobody knows what they're talking about if Mike Morse is good or not. I don't know about you, but I'll go by what my eyes tell me, and Mike Morse looks like a good player for the Nationals.
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Joe Morgan
In other words, Mr. Camels, nobody knows what they're talking about if Mike Morse is good or not. I don't know about you, but I'll go by what my eyes tell me, and Mike Morse looks like a good player for the Nationals.
I don't think he is gritty or clutch enough to be called a good player
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Originally Posted by
ewing6
I don't think he is gritty or clutch enough to be called a good player
He helps his team score more runs than their opponent. He is a good player.
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Originally Posted by
actionjackson
His BABIP in those 300 career games is .349, and it's .355 this year, so you can tell 200tang to take those "super lucky" comments and shove 'em up his ass.
For his career/this season
BABIP on grounders: .279/.262
BABIP on fly balls: .181/.213
BABIP on line drives: .790/.793
League average BABIPs
grounders: about .240
fly balls: about .140
line drives: about .740
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dee gordon, huh? The new Ozzie?
Saw his top plays on mlb network last night, kid is stellar
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Originally Posted by
Alloutwar
dee gordon, huh? The new Ozzie?
Saw his top plays on mlb network last night, kid is stellar
I literally just said that the other day on another forum.
He looks so much like Ozzie out there, it's incredible.
So does anyone think that Albert's injury could have lingering effects or will last until August?
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/A...eakdown-062011
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Originally Posted by
HoustonGM
BABIP for hitters is much more skill than it is for pitchers. So, .355 is absolutely "super lucky" for some players but not others. BABIP needs to be judged against a player's own base line (and Morse's career isn't really long enough to set an accurate baseline). That said, Ichiro's career BABIP is .354. Mike Morse is no Ichiro.
And fast guys tend to get away with higher babip anyway. Castro should be able to get away with a higher number like Ichiro for example.
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So does anyone think that Albert's injury could have lingering effects or will last until August?
yes. hand/wrist injuries take a long time to recover from typically. Him not being the typical Albert through August and even Sept/Oct. (if playing) is a distinct possibility if not a probability. Long term.....its a bit tougher to predict. i'd say odds are he likely has a full recovery.
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Originally Posted by
Jeffy25
I literally just said that the other day on another forum.
He looks so much like Ozzie out there, it's incredible.
So does anyone think that Albert's injury could have lingering effects or will last until August?
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/A...eakdown-062011
I think he will be fine.
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Originally Posted by
ragecage
I think he will be fine.
by august you think he'll be the same pujols of old?
trying to think of recent hand/wrist injuries of this significance;
- Nomar Garciaparra
- David Ortiz
- Derrek Lee
- Miguel Tejada
- Carlos Quentin
those are just a few i can come up with. all had extensive recovery periods, struggled initially after their return, and some..heck arguably all never returned to their prior form.
i just don't know how one can expect Pujols to come back and be his prior self in August. That seems very optimistic.
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filihok
Hudson did it too
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It's a broken bone. Normally, that'll heal up just fine, with no long-term effects. But by August? No, he won't be 100%. How close to 100%, though, is hard to say. Also, the biggest risk of there being long-term effects is if he tries to come back too quickly and re-injures himself (which wouldn't necessarily be re-breaking the same bone, but could be hurting himself in some other way while trying to compensate).
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Originally Posted by
dickay
by august you think he'll be the same pujols of old?
trying to think of recent hand/wrist injuries of this significance;
- Nomar Garciaparra
- David Ortiz
- Derrek Lee
- Miguel Tejada
- Carlos Quentin
those are just a few i can come up with. all had extensive recovery periods, struggled initially after their return, and some..heck arguably all never returned to their prior form.
i just don't know how one can expect Pujols to come back and be his prior self in August. That seems very optimistic.
If anyone could do it, it would be him.
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Originally Posted by
ragecage
If anyone could do it, it would be him.
i'll buy that. i also think there may be differences in the injuries from those i posted. he has a "forearm fracture" whereas some of them had "broken hands" or wrists. these injuries very well could be entirely different...so who knows, august may be possible but i wouldn't bet on it.
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Originally Posted by
Jeffy25
Scoring question.
Guy on first base, pitcher throws a pick off to first and the guy breaks for second and he is fast enough to beat the first basemen's throw down to second.
Is this not recorded as a stolen base?
This happened in last nights Brewers game with Upton. Naverson attempted a pickoff to 1st, Upton broke to 2nd, Naverson's throw to Fielder was high, he made a leaping grab but had no chance of throwing to 2nd. It was ruled a SB. Also wierd sequence in the 8th when Sam Fuld was announced as the relief pitcher, came on and threw some warm up pitches then Maddon slowly walked to the mound and pulled him. This must of been to buy time for another pitcher to get warmed up.
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Originally Posted by
MichelleWie
This happened in last nights Brewers game with Upton. Naverson attempted a pickoff to 1st, Upton broke to 2nd, Naverson's throw to Fielder was high, he made a leaping grab but had no chance of throwing to 2nd. It was ruled a SB. Also wierd sequence in the 8th when Sam Fuld was announced as the relief pitcher, came on and threw some warm up pitches then Maddon slowly walked to the mound and pulled him. This must of been to buy time for another pitcher to get warmed up.
he must've hurt himself during warm up (or they claimed he did). i am pretty certain that once a RP is announced, they have to pitch to at least one batter...injury aside of course.
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Originally Posted by
MichelleWie
This happened in last nights Brewers game with Upton. Naverson attempted a pickoff to 1st, Upton broke to 2nd, Naverson's throw to Fielder was high, he made a leaping grab but had no chance of throwing to 2nd. It was ruled a SB. Also wierd sequence in the 8th when Sam Fuld was announced as the relief pitcher, came on and threw some warm up pitches then Maddon slowly walked to the mound and pulled him. This must of been to buy time for another pitcher to get warmed up.
I still don't know why he'd do that though. He'd still be getting warm-up pitches if he came out to the mound as normal.
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Chad Billingsley is hitting a robust .379/.538 on the season in 33 trips to the plate.
He has produced 2.3 batting runs according to FanGraphs. That is good enough for 4th on the Dodgers behind Kemp, Ethier, and Carroll
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Originally Posted by
dickay
he must've hurt himself during warm up (or they claimed he did). i am pretty certain that once a RP is announced, they have to pitch to at least one batter...injury aside of course.
Yeah Maddon and the umps screwed up:
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MILWAUKEE - Tampa Bay manager Joe Maddon admits he broke a rule when he let outfielder Sam Fuld warm up as a pitcher but pulled him before he threw a pitch.
Fuld pinch-hit in the top of the eighth inning Monday night, then took the mound with an 8-1 lead.
By rule, Fuld should have faced at least one Milwaukee batter. Instead, Maddon took out Fuld and brought in reliever Cesar Ramos. The Rays won 8-4.
The umpires said they thought Fuld was sore.
"We got away with violating a rule," Maddon said Tuesday. "There were no shenanigans, no misinformation. I just think there was a miscommunication."
Maddon said Major League Baseball executive Joe Torre called him. Maddon apologized to the umpires. Brewers manager Ron Roenicke said he had no dispute.