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Someone put me out of my misery and shoot either me or Frank Francisco right meow
Four run lead and your hyperventilating about one runner? ;pQuote:
Originally Posted by Kobie
When it's Francisco, yes lolQuote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
why is it every time i see daniel bard in a game, he's blowing a lead?
Cause he, like everyone who plays for the Red Sox, is a chode.
I'm tellin ya, these Jays are for reals
Entering the game with a five run lead and three outs to get...Might be safe in 2Frank's hands. One runner makes no never mind 2Frank drives me nuts, although nowhere near as much as Kevin Gregg did. I sometimes wish we didn't have 4 RHP on the roster who were all closers at the start of 2010, and so far this year are all flyball pitchers. Frasor does bounce back and forth and in fairness has been more groundballish than flyballish career-wise. In the Rogers Centre, particularly with the roof closed, playing almost half your home games against the AL Beast...Let's just say, it can be a bit of a dangerous situation, kind of akin to trying to put out a fire with kerosene. I still don't see a bonafide closer here, despite all the "upgrades" to the bullpen. The biggest upgrade was Carlos Villanueva, who's now stepped out to be a starter (fine job tonight). He's also a bit of a flyball pitcher though.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Any day you beat the Yankees is a great day. 2Frank did fight back. I'll give him credit for that, but I'm not exactly comforted when I see him warming up to come in for the ninth.
Easy boy. We haven't gotten to the part where we discard the wreckage and bring up the kids yet. Also...Travis Snider pulled in the seventh inning after grounding out...No injury...Hmmm. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobie
What I got from Coach calling the Mariners owner the most dysfunctional:
"WAAAAHHHHH!"
Seriously? How can you call the Seattle ownership the most dysfunctional when there are ownership situations like the Dodgers and Mets and Washington (before they finally GOT an owner a few years ago) and so many other messy ownership situations in baseball? If anything, Seattle has one of the most stable ownership groups in baseball.
That's what I get from most of Coach's posts about anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG
Yeah, me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
Yeah that made absolutely no sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG
I would agree with Coach if Deion Branch owned the team.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/athletics/ci_18126004
Instead of choosing a side, I will just go out and say Fuentes and Geren both ****ing suck.Quote:
Fuentes talked before the game about his frustration over being brought into a tie game in extra innings Sunday against the Giants, an unusual occurrence for a closer in a road game.
On Monday, he was called upon to relieve Josh Outman to start the eighth inning. He said he was shocked when the phone rang in the seventh inning and his name was called.
"I thought the games in San Francisco were some unorthodox managing, but I thought it was maybe the National League, maybe that had something to do with it," Fuentes said. "But tonight was pretty unbelievable."
Fuentes, who has 196 career saves and is filling in for injured closer Andrew Bailey, was asked his thoughts on how he's being handled in the bullpen.
"Pretty poorly," he replied.
How much communication does he have with Geren?
"Zero."
Fuentes, an 11-year veteran, said he didn't know if other relievers felt this way. But he added:
"There's just a lack of communication. I don't think anybody really knows which direction he's headed."
Has Fuentes done anything to 'earn' the job of closer? When Grant Balfour is on that team, as well as everyone else in the bullpen that's better than him (Ziegler/Wuertz)? What's this entitlement crap? 7 losses and a 5.06 ERA - plus his track record in Anaheim - don't inspire confidence.
Fuentes should be DFA'd before given the 'closer' label.
Yeah he "earned" the job by Bailey being hurt, I am totally against that. I want Balfour to close. Geren said he prefers pitchers with closing experience, which would leave Ziegler who has some experience in closing. But seriously if you look outside the Saves stat, Balfour and Ziegler have been more effective relievers. Geren is a horrible manager and he still wont get fired because he's close with Beane. FFFFUUUUUQuote:
Originally Posted by Alloutwar
I'd add Wuertz in as better than Fuentes. So even if you ignore Bailey, Fuentes should be like 4th down the depth chart for high-leverage situations.
lol, at this point I would like to see him in mopup duty only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alloutwar
This would be similar to Bartolo Colon being upset that he isn't labelled the Yankee's Ace. #1 there's like 3 guys easily better than you, and #2 you're fat.
and #3 your on ragecage's fantasy baseball roster, where players go to die.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alloutwar
Been a closer in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alloutwar
Corey Hart had 3 homers and 7 RBIs yesterday, which can only mean one thing: I had him benched in the BBM Dynasty league.
And the fantasy fail continues.
On Sunday I was picking people up at the airport, and by the time I got back it was 2:15 and I couldn't start James Shields (OMFG CG 13Ks) and Jaime Garcia (meh). I lost the matchup by 1 win, 1 QS.
That is true. He's also been worth more than 1 WAR...three times. And he's 35.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
It's weird - I want to defend the A's for not giving him the 'closer' role, but then he keeps blowing games for them, so they're obviously relying on him in some late-inning situations. Wonder if the DFA him in July, or later.
The Mariners are currently run by two shmucks (CEO/Chairman/the guy who runs the team in place of Yamauchi, Howard Lincoln and President/COO Chuck Armstrong) who have no idea how to run a baseball team. They care only about the profits and couldn't care less about whether the Mariners are winning. Instead of hiring top guys who will work with Zduriencik to make the team a competitor (which will make them more money, obviously, by drawing in more fans), they're content to slash the team's budget and to raise prices of tickets, food, souvenirs, etc. around Safeco. They're the ones who hired Bill Bavasi as GM and refused to fire him-despite Bavasi not only failing to make the team better, but actually making the organization as a whole worse-until midway through the 2008 season in which the Mariners would finish with their worst record in 25 seasons. They're not dysfunctional in the financial sense that the Dodgers are and Nationals were in Montreal, but if they had an attentive and owner who cared about the team, Lincoln and Armstrong would be out on their butts a long time ago and the owner would have brought in people who know how to run a baseball team.Quote:
Originally Posted by haveacigar
Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach Owens
The expos may be listed as the same organization as the Nationals, but I will not consider them as such.
Ti-yaddah, ti-yaddah, ti-yaddah...This is worse than the Dodgers and Mets exactly how?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach Owens
Yeah none of that makes them dysfunctional.
Yeah, it really does. They're the reason that the franchise is in the state it's in (bad and not really getting a lot better) and it's all because they basically have no owner.
Well, at least they don't have an owner ripping some of his best players in the press and sounding like George Steinbrenner on an out of control bender while doing it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach Owens
If you're going to base dysfunction on lack of success and making profits, Pittsburgh would have them beat.
Aye yep!Quote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
Yeah if all you're saying is that they have a CEO that isn't as good as other CEOs, that doesn't make them dysfunctional at all. To be a dysfunctional organization, there has to be a breakdown in the operations, to the point where things happen that don't happen in properly run franchises. Teams have absentee owners all the time. Teams prioritize profits all the time. Teams go years with an awful GM all the time.
Here's what normal owners don't do:
Squander team operating revenue to cover personal losses.
Get divorced and allow the divorce to completely disrupt franchise decision making.
Have a player development executive run around a minor league clubhouse without his shirt on.
Lose half a bil in a Ponzi scheme.
Call me when Yamauchi does one of these things.
Hope you were smart AOW and started Hart.
Paging HGM, Paging HGM. Come in HGM. Thinking back to last night's comments in here, you possibly just watched exhibit A for why Blue Jays fans shudder when Frank Francisco comes in to "close" a game. He found his own way to close it tonight, just not the way that Jays fans had hoped. :( Going to Francisco on 0 days rest in particular is absolutely asinine. Coming into tonight, he has his worst BA against (.268), worst OBP against (.354), worst SLG against (.470), (obviously) worst OPS against (.824), highest BABIP against (.320), highest tOPS+ against (adjusted OPS against measured against the player's career adjusted OPS against [143 tOPS+ against]), worst WHIP (1.55), and worst ERA (6.70). These are all career splits. Bottom line, do not go to him on back to back days...EVER...Especially against the motherf***ing Yankee$. Ughf***. Aargh. Blargh. F***ity. F***.
Stop complaining about CarGo now, rage.
Erik Almonte on the DL with a concussion because he got hit in the head during fielding practice; goes and gets hit again in the face on his first rehab appearance!! Once again before the game during fielding practice! What are the odds? Not to mention Braddock who is on the DL for a sleeping disorder ends up breaking a nail and scraps his start attempt on the same night. It's bad when you have guys already on the DL getting hurt!
Why couldn't he hit 3 homerz?Quote:
Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...SPH01JKDRE.DTL
This article made me laugh. Thanks Huston Street.
Oh and Fuentes no longer closing but with the way Geren manages, probably will see him continue to come in and face righties like Joey Bats, Miguel Cabrera, Youks, etc, etc. Our manager loves to troll A's fans.Quote:
In September 2008, Street had to be separated from Geren by shortstop Bobby Crosby after getting pulled from a game in Detroit. Calling himself "selfish," Street later held a meeting to apologize to his teammates.
On Tuesday, Street, now with the Rockies, offered his harshest public criticism of Geren in a text to Chronicle reporter Susan Slusser:
"Bob was never good at communication, and I don't want to speak for anybody else, but it was a sentiment reflected in many conversations during the two years I spent in Oakland, and even recently when talking to guys after I left. For me personally, he was my least favorite person I have ever encountered in sports from age 6 to 27. I am very thankful to be in a place where I can trust my manager."
Why Can't Pitchers Deal with Jose Bautista by Throwing Outside and Giving Him Nothing to Pull? - Beyond the Box Score
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Table 1 makes it pretty clear that pitchers have been trying to simply pitch as far away as possible to Jose Bautista over the last two years - only a few (6 in 2010, 5 in 2011) batters have gotten a more extreme treatment, and not by TOO much.
However, this pitch strategy against Bautista...isn't doing much good.
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/62...aRunValues.png
Figure 1: A chart showing the effectiveness (using run values) of pitches against Jose Bautista based upon their horizontal location. The more positive the run value, the better a batter is doing on such pitches. The vertical lines illustrate the borders of a wide strike zone.
Jose Bautista is pretty ridiculous, and this year he's simply on another level. He's managed somehow to take what would be his obvious weakness - pitches outside that are harder to pull - and make it into a strength...despite not really changing his batting strategy (he's STILL pulling nearly everything in the air).