Official "What are you thinking about right now?" (Political Version)

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Originally Posted by dickay

i actually agree with almost all of this, i don't at all disagree with calling republican leadership wackos nor do i disagree that they've been far worst than democrats of late. it's clear however when one uses a sliding scale to hide their blind support for one side on absolutely every issue. It's clear when one is a puppet for their base and buys and sells every talking point fed them. It's clear when one doesn't want to look at something with an open mind and instead wants to be told what to believe.

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Lying again.

And waitaminnit -- you're actually agreeing with what I said earlier, yet still attempting to use it as a cudgel against me in your neverending quest to feel superior on the internet. Duly noted.

I think Kobie needs a long break from the forum.

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Originally Posted by LQ1Z34

I think Kobie needs a long break from the forum.

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That's nice.

You've just been really hostile towards members, and openly throwing personal insults. It's one thing to not like another member - but it's quite another to openly display your dislike without at least veiling it behind facts or at least employing some humorous prose to make the insults entertaining to the peanut gallery. I could hear 'You suck, I'll laugh at you' from any preschooler.

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Originally Posted by LQ1Z34

You've just been really hostile towards members, and openly throwing personal insults. It's one thing to not like another member - but it's quite another to openly display your dislike without at least veiling it behind facts or at least employing some humorous prose to make the insults entertaining to the peanut gallery. I could hear 'You suck, I'll laugh at you' from any preschooler.

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When one's argument consists of dishonestly attempting to tell me what I think and then ripping me for it, it's hard to tell what "facts" I'm supposed to use.

However, your concern is duly noted. I wholeheartedly appreciate the lecture.

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Originally Posted by Kobie

Oh, cram it. This is your MO ... anytime someone points out their opinion of one party, you accuse them of just being a cheerleader for the other one. Even when I say the Democrats aren't good, I'm still cheerleading for them by saying that the Republicans are worse.

Actually, that's not true. You only accuse people who are critical of Republicans of being "cheerleading puppets."

I could not care less what your opinion is. Save it for someone who does.

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How about Fienstein and SOPA? She was pushing that **** harder than any of those loon Repubs?

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Originally Posted by Kobie

That doesn't make any sense.

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Yeah if you suck and accept being bad at your job as acceptable. Any other profession, carrying unnecessary wars on, taking away rights, trying to take away more, only politics is the only excuse to keep your job. Any other job you would be fired.

And from what I've seen from Dickay, hes been slamming Repubs as hard as Demo's.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

And from what I've seen from Dickay, hes been slamming Repubs as hard as Demo's.

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Yup. Too be honest he is the most moderate person on the forum.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

How about Fienstein and SOPA? She was pushing that **** harder than any of those loon Repubs?

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Yep, and Diane Fienstein is an awful person. Nowhere did I say that every single Democrat is better than every single Republican. Fienstein, Maxine Waters and a few others are simply terrible.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

Yeah if you suck and accept being bad at your job as acceptable. Any other profession, carrying unnecessary wars on, taking away rights, trying to take away more, only politics is the only excuse to keep your job. Any other job you would be fired.

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And no other job allows people to congregate every four years and determine whether you can keep it.

I see Obama as bad; I see Romney as objectively worse in every conceivable fashion. So why on earth would I vote for Romney? Bear in mind I don't plan on voting for Obama either -- my vote really doesn't matter since Romney has about as much chance of winning my home state as I do.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

And from what I've seen from Dickay, hes been slamming Repubs as hard as Demo's.

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Sure, after he's done making his political hay ripping me for what he thinks I think.

evil wealthy bastards:mad:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/10...est=latestnews

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Originally Posted by dickay

evil wealthy bastards:mad:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/10...est=latestnews

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Because obviously, as has been said numerous times by us liberal rubber stamps, every single rich person is an evil *******.

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Originally Posted by Kobie

Because obviously, as has been said numerous times by us liberal rubber stamps, every single rich person is an evil *******.

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don't put word in other peoples mouths ;)

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Originally Posted by dickay

don't put word in other peoples mouths ;)

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Don't do it through implication then.

New study shows that if ALL registered voters turned out, Obama would have a 91% chance of being re-elected.

Disinterest and ambivalence are pretty much the Republicans' only shot at winning presidential elections from here on out. You stay home, they win.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

Yeah if you suck and accept being bad at your job as acceptable. Any other profession, carrying unnecessary wars on, taking away rights, trying to take away more, only politics is the only excuse to keep your job. Any other job you would be fired.

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What other job allows one to carry on wars?

I mean besides oil executive, pharmaceuticals executive, etc...

I do kind of feel like a tool.

Reading NDAA section 1021, it exempts US citizens from indefinite detention. Which raises the question as to why the media would spread this fear around and why a Federal Judge would overturn it if it doesn't harm US citizens?

Not having to tell someone (even if they aren't a citizen) how long you plan on detaining them seems both cruel & unusual

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Originally Posted by etothep

Not having to tell someone (even if they aren't a citizen) how long you plan on detaining them seems both cruel & unusual

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It is. It wasn't the reason I was upset about it though. Reading it closer, I still don't like it and am glad it was overturned. I just don't like being misinformed.

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Originally Posted by etothep

Not having to tell someone (even if they aren't a citizen) how long you plan on detaining them seems both cruel & unusual

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The Bill of Rights generally only applies to US Citizens...

Why do I feel like Obama is going to start a war in Cairo in a last ditch attempt at being reelected?

Regardless of what letter / color you place yourself in politically, Michelle Malkin gets it dead on accurate here. 6 minutes but worth listening to as she doesn't get into it for a bit. The 3:00 mark is a good starting point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y35S4Oua8vI

Regardless of what letter / color you place yourself in politically, it's more than OK to hate on Hannity.

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Originally Posted by LQ1Z34

The Bill of Rights generally only applies to US Citizens...

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It would seem to me that the 14th & 5th ammendments say otherwise


Also at least one of the framers of the Constitution seemed to think non-citizens should be protected:

"Again, it is said, that aliens not being parties to the Constitution, the rights and privileges which it secures cannot be at all claimed by them.

To this reasoning, also, it might be answered, that although aliens are not parties to the Constitution, it does not follow that the Constitution has vested in Congress an absolute power over them. The parties to the Constitution may have granted, or retained, or modified the power over aliens, without regard to that particular consideration.

But a more direct reply is, that it does not follow, because aliens are not parties to the Constitution, as citizens are parties to it, that whilst they actually conform to it, they have no right to its protection. Aliens are not more parties to the laws, than they are parties to the Constitution; yet, it will not be disputed, that as they owe, on one hand, a temporary obedience, they are entitled in return to their protection and advantage.

If aliens had no rights under the Constitution, they might not only be banished, but even capitally punished, without a jury or the other incidents to a fair trial. But so far has a contrary principle been carried, in every part of the United States, that except on charges of treason, an alien has, besides all the common privileges, the special one of being tried by a jury, of which one-half may be also aliens."

- James Madison



Only rights I can think of not afforded to non-citizens are right to bear arms & right to vote

Romney dismissing 47% of the country as worthless. That will sure boost those poll numbers

next up, he dismisses anyone darker than eggshell white

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Originally Posted by Alloutwar

Romney dismissing 47% of the country as worthless. That will sure boost those poll numbers

next up, he dismisses anyone darker than eggshell white

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Did you see the graph that the vast majority of those 47% (the figure apparently refers to people who pay no net Federal income tax) are in the deep south?

Anyway, indefinite detention of non-citizens generally runs afoul of international treaties more than the Bill of Rights. From the 14th Amendment, Bill of Rights only protects non-citizens from actions by a state, in that particular state. That's why terrorist suspects are detained in Gitmo and other countries.

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Originally Posted by LQ1Z34

Why do I feel like Obama is going to start a war in Cairo in a last ditch attempt at being reelected?

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He doesn't need to.

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Originally Posted by Kobie

He doesn't need to.

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The war in Cairo will start itself. :)

Why does Obama need a last ditch effort to get himself reelected?

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Originally Posted by haveacigar

Why does Obama need a last ditch effort to get himself reelected?

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That's more where I was going with this. However, there are some people who have themselves convinced that Romney is the one in the catbird seat.

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Originally Posted by haveacigar

Why does Obama need a last ditch effort to get himself reelected?

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Probably has something with BHO being an incumbent during shitty times.

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Originally Posted by Alloutwar

Romney dismissing 47% of the country as worthless. That will sure boost those poll numbers

next up, he dismisses anyone darker than eggshell white

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While wishing he was Latino and unmarried.

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Originally Posted by LQ1Z34

Probably has something with BHO being an incumbent during shitty times.

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Dunno, Bush won in 2004.

The most reliable statistical projection, based on years of data regarding how elections work, has Obama as a heavy favorite. He's an incumbent, and the GOP nominee is an utter imbecile. Obama doesn't need an October surprise.

Incumbents enjoy pretty significant advantages in elections.

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Originally Posted by haveacigar

Incumbents enjoy pretty significant advantages in elections.

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This.

Something like 90% of incumbents keep their seats in every office.

Plus, R-Money cant seem to say anything right.

Romney is trailing, by a margin of 1 to 8 points, in every major poll conducted post-DNC.

And that's before Romney jumped on the administration's handling of terrorist killings, and dismissed 47% of the country.

My wife went out to do canvassing and knock on doors last night, to make sure NC stays blue. I'm thinking it may, and wondering what that means for the governer's race here.

hot off the presses: Romney accepts likely failed bid for the white house, attempts to turn voters on to Mormonism

http://www.theonion.com/articles/now...k-to-yo,29611/

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Originally Posted by alloutwar

hot off the presses: Romney accepts likely failed bid for the white house, attempts to turn voters on to mormonism

http://www.theonion.com/articles/now...k-to-yo,29611/

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lol

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Originally Posted by Alloutwar

hot off the presses: Romney accepts likely failed bid for the white house, attempts to turn voters on to Mormonism

http://www.theonion.com/articles/now...k-to-yo,29611/

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Why even bother with the onion ********?

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Originally Posted by LQ1Z34

Why even bother with the onion ********?

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Because it's funny.