Relatives in professional sports

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

And not fake, like WWE.

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Tell this guy that wrestling is fake.

Staged =/= fake. Some moves are choreographed and are not landed or made to look damaging but in actuality aren't. Some moves you can't fake, and Mick Foley is a prime example of a guy who has bled, been set on fire which caused 2nd degree burns, been hit multiple time with chairs to the head, and been thrown off a cage (staged) and thrown throw the cage ceiling onto the mat (not).

You want to argue that WWE is too soap opera-ish and unrealistic, then I can see that and agree with it. One thing you can't say about it, though, is that it is "fake".

It's fake.

OK.

I do not think that Jeffy meant that every MMA fan is a dog rapist.

Can we let it go, please? He phrased it wrong, in the context of other self-perceived slights that precede me. He didn't mean it, so let's just stop.

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Originally Posted by Kobie

OK.

I do not think that Jeffy meant that every MMA fan is a dog rapist.

Can we let it go, please? He phrased it wrong, in the context of other self-perceived slights that precede me. He didn't mean it, so let's just stop.

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I don't really think he phrased it wrong. I think he just felt like being judgmental today.

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Originally Posted by free2131

Tell this guy that wrestling is fake.

Staged =/= fake. Some moves are choreographed and are not landed or made to look damaging but in actuality aren't. Some moves you can't fake, and Mick Foley is a prime example of a guy who has bled, been set on fire which caused 2nd degree burns, been hit multiple time with chairs to the head, and been thrown off a cage (staged) and thrown throw the cage ceiling onto the mat (not).

You want to argue that WWE is too soap opera-ish and unrealistic, then I can see that and agree with it. One thing you can't say about it, though, is that it is "fake".

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I thought you were gonna post this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNy...eature=related

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Originally Posted by haveacigar

I don't really think he phrased it wrong. I think he just felt like being judgmental today.

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This or stereotypical. Not the first time he let loose the stereotypes.

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Originally Posted by haveacigar

I thought you were gonna post this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNy...eature=related

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKi0eWG4ils

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBT8W...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4SDD...eature=related

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Originally Posted by filihok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKi0eWG4ils

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBT8W...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4SDD...eature=related

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IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT! :c

Im related to Carl Hubbell

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Originally Posted by rockiesfan4ever

Im relate dto Carl Hubbell

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Looks like you're related to TNP, too :p

Mike Eruzione's my Dad's cousin, FWIW.

Wrestling is still fake.

I'm related to myself

Should add that I know D'Angelo Jimenez through his brother and have spoken with Doug Mientzimynameisimpossibletospellki while he played for the Twins.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

This or stereotypical. Not the first time he let loose the stereotypes.

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and why do stereotypes exist?

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Originally Posted by StreetMedic

Mike Eruzione's my Dad's cousin, FWIW.

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does he believe in miracles?

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

and why do stereotypes exist?

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Because people like you throw it around like it's true when if you actually pay attention things are not like how you say it is.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

Because people like you throw it around like it's true when if you actually pay attention things are not like how you say it is.

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not always, but often times it can be.

Example?

dude, don't get me started, stereotypes exist, they were not just randomly created, they exist in every day society. We learn from experience how true they can be. It doesn't mean that they are all universally true, in fact, none of them are universally true, but they exist, and they exist for a reason. Is it smart to segment the entire population of those stereotypes? No, but we should learn from experiences and not be ignorant of our society. Rednecks like guns, people in the south are ignorant of other cultures and are pretty dead set on religion. HUD housing doesn't usually house those that need it, but often times, those that just want free rent. HAC's story about his cousin who was a cop that saw the young black kid in an escalade? turned out it was stolen, had that cop not done his job (which was to check out anything that looks suspicious) then who knows if that kid would have been caught. Stereotypes are everywhere, we shouldn't just ignore them, blanket them, but we also should be aware that not all of them are true, and none of them are true for everybody.

some stereotypes are incredibly negative, some are positive, we can't just ignore them.

Are there any white Half backs in the NFL? How many white guys are good at basketball anymore? Does it make me an ass to assume that those sports/positions are predominately black? No, it's true, does anyone care? They shouldn't

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

dude, don't get me started, stereotypes exist, they were not just randomly created, they exist in every day society. We learn from experience how true they can be. It doesn't mean that they are all universally true, in fact, none of them are universally true, but they exist, and they exist for a reason. Is it smart to segment the entire population of those stereotypes? No, but we should learn from experiences and not be ignorant of our society. Rednecks like guns, people in the south are ignorant of other cultures and are pretty dead set on religion. HUD housing doesn't usually house those that need it, but often times, those that just want free rent. HAC's story about his cousin who was a cop that saw the young black kid in an escalade? turned out it was stolen, had that cop not done his job (which was to check out anything that looks suspicious) then who knows if that kid would have been caught. Stereotypes are everywhere, we shouldn't just ignore them, blanket them, but we also should be aware that not all of them are true, and none of them are true for everybody.

some stereotypes are incredibly negative, some are positive, we can't just ignore them.

Are there any white Half backs in the NFL? How many white guys are good at basketball anymore? Does it make me an ass to assume that those sports/positions are predominately black? No, it's true, does anyone care? They shouldn't

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And this whole time I thought you were from the midwest

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Originally Posted by etothep

And this whole time I thought you were from the midwest

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your sarcasm is always stupid

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

Are there any white Half backs in the NFL? How many white guys are good at basketball anymore? Does it make me an ass to assume that those sports/positions are predominately black? No, it's true, does anyone care? They shouldn't

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How about white guys who are good enough to be NFL running backs? Should they care?

Read Outliers and Moneyball.

You're right that it is totally natural to create stereotypes. Human perception and intelligence could not exist without the mental grouping that we do. It might be the greatest tool that we have at our disposal.

But, like any tool, it is dangerous to use it incorrectly.

To say that this white guy, because he is white, will not be as good a running back as that black guy is an incorrect use of the tool.

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

dude, don't get me started, stereotypes exist, they were not just randomly created, they exist in every day society. We learn from experience how true they can be. It doesn't mean that they are all universally true, in fact, none of them are universally true, but they exist, and they exist for a reason. Is it smart to segment the entire population of those stereotypes? No, but we should learn from experiences and not be ignorant of our society. Rednecks like guns, people in the south are ignorant of other cultures and are pretty dead set on religion. HUD housing doesn't usually house those that need it, but often times, those that just want free rent. HAC's story about his cousin who was a cop that saw the young black kid in an escalade? turned out it was stolen, had that cop not done his job (which was to check out anything that looks suspicious) then who knows if that kid would have been caught. Stereotypes are everywhere, we shouldn't just ignore them, blanket them, but we also should be aware that not all of them are true, and none of them are true for everybody.

some stereotypes are incredibly negative, some are positive, we can't just ignore them.

Are there any white Half backs in the NFL? How many white guys are good at basketball anymore? Does it make me an ass to assume that those sports/positions are predominately black? No, it's true, does anyone care? They shouldn't

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True but you say stereotypes that don't hold any weight or merit. Because I like UFC, I am just like Micheal Vick. :rolleyes:

It's stereotypes like that, that piss me off.

I do know that stereotypes are all around us, but you look like a fool when you're being judgmental and just start spitting them out because you get mad when people debate you.

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Originally Posted by filihok

How about white guys who are good enough to be NFL running backs? Should they care?

Read Outliers and Moneyball.

You're right that it is totally natural to create stereotypes. Human perception and intelligence could not exist without the mental grouping that we do. It might be the greatest tool that we have at our disposal.

But, like any tool, it is dangerous to use it incorrectly.

To say that this white guy, because he is white, will not be as good a running back as that black guy is an incorrect use of the tool.

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Oh, I completely agree, and I've read moneyball ;) only heard of Outliers.

I just don't like being called out for using stereotypes at times. We all do it

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Originally Posted by ragecage

True but you say stereotypes that don't hold any weight or merit. Because I like UFC, I am just like Micheal Vick. :rolleyes:

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I never said that, I said how it appears to me, that to me it's like watching people fight is like watching dogs fight. I did not say that everyone that watches fighting, treat it like Michael Vick and his buddies did. Two completely different things.

If you can't separate the difference, then I can't help you.

A thread about letting people know if you had/have any family members play in a major sports league becomes a thread about Michael Vickish people?

lol.

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

I never said that, I said how it appears to me, that to me it's like watching people fight is like watching dogs fight. I did not say that everyone that watches fighting, treat it like Michael Vick and his buddies did. Two completely different things.

If you can't separate the difference, then I can't help you.

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I see what you did (Nice editing on the post in question). Thankfully AB quoted you.

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the people watching it seem the exact same as the Michael Vick type to me.

And I agreed it's a sport, by definition, it is a sport, but I'm gonna call it very loosely a sport.

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So yeah...

Edit: And btw Jeffy, that's pretty bad of you. I never would think that you would be the kind to do a stunt like that, editing your posts just to try to prove somebody wrong. That's Josh# territory.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

I see what you did (Nice editing on the post in question). Thankfully AB quoted you.



So yeah...

Edit: And btw Jeffy, that's pretty bad of you. I never would think that you would be the kind to do a stunt like that, editing your posts just to try to prove somebody wrong. That's Josh# territory.

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how does that make it the same? Does that mean they are betting and starving the people? Did I say any of that?

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

how does that make it the same? Does that mean they are betting and starving the people? Did I say any of that?

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Point is you said something offensive, said a half assed apology for it, and apparently want to keep this crap going by editing your posts then saying you never said such things. So I really don't feel the need to answer your questions when you were being an ass to begin with.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

Point is you said something offensive, said a half assed apology for it, and apparently want to keep this crap going by editing your posts then saying you never said such things. So I really don't feel the need to answer your questions when you were being an ass to begin with.

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k, cool

Ok everyone, who wadded Jeffy's panties?

Seriously man, take a needed break from the forum

Here's the truth.

MMA is a sport. Simple as that case closed.

WWE is not "fake." It's a show. It's exaggerated..but it takes a tremendous amount of skill, strength, toughness, and on and on and on to get in the ring and do what they do. It's not a "sport," but dismissing it as fake is incorrect.


My uncle is a professional dart player/thrower (?) in England.

I'm agreeing with Jeffy here. It takes a ratard to want to get into a cage and try to beat the pulp out of another human being. And for the record, i don't consider nascar to be a sport either. The guys arguing with him are probably douchebags that wear tap out clothing and mark out over every spike tv special.

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Originally Posted by Mage

I'm agreeing with Jeffy here. It takes a ratard to want to get into a cage and try to beat the pulp out of another human being. And for the record, i don't consider nascar to be a sport either. The guys arguing with him are probably douchebags that wear tap out clothing and mark out over every spike tv special.

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You're an idiot.

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Originally Posted by Mage

I'm agreeing with Jeffy here. It takes a ratard to want to get into a cage and try to beat the pulp out of another human being. And for the record, i don't consider nascar to be a sport either. The guys arguing with him are probably douchebags that wear tap out clothing and mark out over every spike tv special.

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Trolling is fun. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ragecage

Trolling is fun. :rolleyes:

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why is everything automatically trolling when it's someone disagreeing with others?

xirr, this guy now, dickay? Just because the populist doesn't agree with them doesn't mean it's trolling

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

why is everything automatically trolling when it's someone disagreeing with others?

xirr, this guy now, dickay? Just because the populist doesn't agree with them doesn't mean it's trolling

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Only reading this post, you chose the wrong example (except dickay, mage)

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

why is everything automatically trolling when it's someone disagreeing with others?

xirr, this guy now, dickay? Just because the populist doesn't agree with them doesn't mean it's trolling

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Yeah because I've called xirr and dickay trolls.

I called Dickay an ass at one time, never called xirr anything to my recollection.

Though what I said here is pointless, because you'll just edit another post of yours to make me look like the villain.

Ok guys. It's been going on long enough. How about you guys shake hands, bump chests, and talk it over a beer. lol :cool: