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Mike Eruzione's my Dad's cousin, FWIW.
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Should add that I know D'Angelo Jimenez through his brother and have spoken with Doug Mientzimynameisimpossibletospellki while he played for the Twins.
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ragecage
This or stereotypical. Not the first time he let loose the stereotypes.
and why do stereotypes exist?
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StreetMedic
Mike Eruzione's my Dad's cousin, FWIW.
does he believe in miracles?
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Jeffy25
and why do stereotypes exist?
Because people like you throw it around like it's true when if you actually pay attention things are not like how you say it is.
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ragecage
Because people like you throw it around like it's true when if you actually pay attention things are not like how you say it is.
not always, but often times it can be.
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dude, don't get me started, stereotypes exist, they were not just randomly created, they exist in every day society. We learn from experience how true they can be. It doesn't mean that they are all universally true, in fact, none of them are universally true, but they exist, and they exist for a reason. Is it smart to segment the entire population of those stereotypes? No, but we should learn from experiences and not be ignorant of our society. Rednecks like guns, people in the south are ignorant of other cultures and are pretty dead set on religion. HUD housing doesn't usually house those that need it, but often times, those that just want free rent. HAC's story about his cousin who was a cop that saw the young black kid in an escalade? turned out it was stolen, had that cop not done his job (which was to check out anything that looks suspicious) then who knows if that kid would have been caught. Stereotypes are everywhere, we shouldn't just ignore them, blanket them, but we also should be aware that not all of them are true, and none of them are true for everybody.
some stereotypes are incredibly negative, some are positive, we can't just ignore them.
Are there any white Half backs in the NFL? How many white guys are good at basketball anymore? Does it make me an ass to assume that those sports/positions are predominately black? No, it's true, does anyone care? They shouldn't
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Jeffy25
dude, don't get me started, stereotypes exist, they were not just randomly created, they exist in every day society. We learn from experience how true they can be. It doesn't mean that they are all universally true, in fact, none of them are universally true, but they exist, and they exist for a reason. Is it smart to segment the entire population of those stereotypes? No, but we should learn from experiences and not be ignorant of our society. Rednecks like guns, people in the south are ignorant of other cultures and are pretty dead set on religion. HUD housing doesn't usually house those that need it, but often times, those that just want free rent. HAC's story about his cousin who was a cop that saw the young black kid in an escalade? turned out it was stolen, had that cop not done his job (which was to check out anything that looks suspicious) then who knows if that kid would have been caught. Stereotypes are everywhere, we shouldn't just ignore them, blanket them, but we also should be aware that not all of them are true, and none of them are true for everybody.
some stereotypes are incredibly negative, some are positive, we can't just ignore them.
Are there any white Half backs in the NFL? How many white guys are good at basketball anymore? Does it make me an ass to assume that those sports/positions are predominately black? No, it's true, does anyone care? They shouldn't
And this whole time I thought you were from the midwest
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etothep
And this whole time I thought you were from the midwest
your sarcasm is always stupid
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Jeffy25
Are there any white Half backs in the NFL? How many white guys are good at basketball anymore? Does it make me an ass to assume that those sports/positions are predominately black? No, it's true, does anyone care? They shouldn't
How about white guys who are good enough to be NFL running backs? Should they care?
Read Outliers and Moneyball.
You're right that it is totally natural to create stereotypes. Human perception and intelligence could not exist without the mental grouping that we do. It might be the greatest tool that we have at our disposal.
But, like any tool, it is dangerous to use it incorrectly.
To say that this white guy, because he is white, will not be as good a running back as that black guy is an incorrect use of the tool.
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Jeffy25
dude, don't get me started, stereotypes exist, they were not just randomly created, they exist in every day society. We learn from experience how true they can be. It doesn't mean that they are all universally true, in fact, none of them are universally true, but they exist, and they exist for a reason. Is it smart to segment the entire population of those stereotypes? No, but we should learn from experiences and not be ignorant of our society. Rednecks like guns, people in the south are ignorant of other cultures and are pretty dead set on religion. HUD housing doesn't usually house those that need it, but often times, those that just want free rent. HAC's story about his cousin who was a cop that saw the young black kid in an escalade? turned out it was stolen, had that cop not done his job (which was to check out anything that looks suspicious) then who knows if that kid would have been caught. Stereotypes are everywhere, we shouldn't just ignore them, blanket them, but we also should be aware that not all of them are true, and none of them are true for everybody.
some stereotypes are incredibly negative, some are positive, we can't just ignore them.
Are there any white Half backs in the NFL? How many white guys are good at basketball anymore? Does it make me an ass to assume that those sports/positions are predominately black? No, it's true, does anyone care? They shouldn't
True but you say stereotypes that don't hold any weight or merit. Because I like UFC, I am just like Micheal Vick. :rolleyes:
It's stereotypes like that, that piss me off.
I do know that stereotypes are all around us, but you look like a fool when you're being judgmental and just start spitting them out because you get mad when people debate you.
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filihok
How about white guys who are good enough to be NFL running backs? Should they care?
Read
Outliers and
Moneyball.
You're right that it is totally natural to create stereotypes. Human perception and intelligence could not exist without the mental grouping that we do. It might be the greatest tool that we have at our disposal.
But, like any tool, it is dangerous to use it incorrectly.
To say that this white guy, because he is white, will not be as good a running back as that black guy is an incorrect use of the tool.
Oh, I completely agree, and I've read moneyball ;) only heard of Outliers.
I just don't like being called out for using stereotypes at times. We all do it